? SWA or CAL

[AAflyer]

I think you are living in the past. Gary is more aggressive than Herb was and I think he wants to make sure there are less seats available because that's what is killing us. Where else is there to go? We can serve any market we want but the fact still remains, there are to many airlines out there and we are the only airline that has the ability to make one go away.

Really, so which one have you made disappear?

AA

 

[Flopgut]

I think you are living in the past. Gary is more aggressive than Herb was and I think he wants to make sure there are less seats available because that's what is killing us. Where else is there to go? We can serve any market we want but the fact still remains, there are to many airlines out there and we are the only airline that has the ability to make one go away.

SWA fundamentals are changing and will continue to. Not the least of which is the attitude more and more SWA pilots have revealed. First chink in the armour IMHO. Keep it up guys, I'm happy to see it. In fact, why don't you just go ahead and completely abandon Herb's way of doing things. Do some international and see how that fits into your plan (see what it does to you domestic ops). At the rate your going, by the time you land at your first international destination you will have the highest operating costs in the game. SWA costs are going up, nothing can stop that. Legacy costs are coming down. That has been a painful matter that I would not wish on my worst enemy. It is not over, but the end result is getting nearer. Much depends on how things go with DAL and NWA, but this business is about one or two major legacy airline consolidations from people asking: "Southwest who?"

I'm inclined to believe this Maryland One clown is a SWA pilot. In fact, I think he is my neighbor. Same ugly behavior and hates my "scab" airline on many levels. Declares that his hourly rate being higher than a UAL 744 Captain is "revenge".

 

[AAflyer]

SWA will RULE the WORLD!!

AA


Muhaaaaaa,Muhaaaaaa, Muhaaaaaaaa.

 

[FlyBoeingJets]

I agree but I don't mind giving a man standing on a ledge about to commit suicide a little push.

You are making me sick. Enough with the over the top psuedo SWA support.


Hey Moderator, how 'bout a little help here!

 

[TexaSWA]

Yeah, fire away boys. I'll even quote you the FOM/FRM page number.

Fact is the Texasboy doesn't read my posts properly. While I feel SWA is the best airline out there doesn't mean I am resting on my laurels. Nor does it mean I'm gloating over other people's misfortune. The string involves a decision between two airlines. It's pretty clear, to me, which is better. Maybe Texasboy wishes he was somewhere else.

I see money being wasted each day by FOs and Capts alike that disappoint me. And I'll bet my 401k Texasboy is one of them. We need to make up, at a minimum, $500 million next year and every penny counts. Much like our CEO I want SWA to be the only carrier in town. The unfortunate result of that is people lose their jobs but in war people die and that's a fact. As long as it's not SWA people I live with it.

Do your part Texasboy and stop denouncing those who are happy to be here.

I do my part to save every penny I can. And I have never been anything other that ecstatic to be here at SWA.

Assuming that you are real, I feel that I can speak for the rest of the SWA guys on this board in saying that you are an embarassment. I hope you dont act this way in public.

Humility is one of the "four H's" that we look for in who we hire. You're not showing much of it. Either youre one of those guys who feels the need to step on some toes behind the veil of anonymity that is the internet, or you're a crack slipper.

 

[SWAPoolie]

someone delete this thread.....

 

[enigma]

someone delete this thread.....

Why? It could very instructive to anyone from your PD who happens to read it.

enigma

 

[scoreboard]

Dude!

I agree but I don't mind giving a man standing on a ledge about to commit suicide a little push.

Do you read what you write?


AAFlyer: I think Braniff, TWA, a few others but not as a direct result of our actions, therefore, you are correct sir.

 

[sf260pilot]

Mary,

You really need to chill dude, and by the way I think the -500 matters too, not just the -300 and -700.

By the way the guy in Wedding Crashers that was way too pumped up was from Mary Land too, wasn't he?

 

[Flopgut]

someone delete this thread.....

Did anyone read this prior to deletion? I'm not the most savvy computer user, but I think MarylandOne and SWAPoolie are the same person. Is that just a gliche or something? It was the same disgusting drivel MarylandOne has a penchant for, but posted under SWAPoolie. What gives?

 

[SWAPoolie]

I don't think so. I'm saying delete the thread because it's stupid.

 

[Flopgut]

Your unedited remarks sounded exactly like MarylandOne.

 

[SWAPoolie]

Unedited? I just think the thread is stupid.

 

[Flopgut]

Whatever.

 

[sf260pilot]

by the way.... CAL or SWA?

 

[inthewind]

You losers are so weak! My question is The Limited or World. now there's a dilemna. Hot models or sweaty Marines!

 

[Sailpilot]

sweaty Marines!

You talking about me?

By the way is that picture actually you?

If it is can I get just one verse?

Sing it with me , Y...........M..CA,

sorry dude couldn't help it and just joking around with ya.

Semper Fi, Sailpilot

 

[MarylandONE]

I do my part to save every penny I can. And I have never been anything other that ecstatic to be here at SWA.

Assuming that you are real, I feel that I can speak for the rest of the SWA guys on this board in saying that you are an embarassment. I hope you dont act this way in public.

Humility is one of the "four H's" that we look for in who we hire. You're not showing much of it. Either youre one of those guys who feels the need to step on some toes behind the veil of anonymity that is the internet, or you're a crack slipper.

The final word:

1. There is nothing wrong with having the killer instinct in this industry.
2. It has nothing to do with being humble.
3. Take some business classes before you start spouting off about what you know nothing about.

 

[jbDC9]

The final word:

1. There is nothing wrong with having the killer instinct in this industry.
2. It has nothing to do with being humble.
3. Take some business classes before you start spouting off about what you know nothing about.

And here's my final word(s); you're an idiot and a pompous egomaniac blowhard. Try a piece of humble pie, it's mmm good.

 

[TexaSWA]

The final word:

1. There is nothing wrong with having the killer instinct in this industry.
2. It has nothing to do with being humble.
3. Take some business classes before you start spouting off about what you know nothing about.

Im going to go ahead and post this again, and I want you to point out where business classes have anything to do with what I said.


----I do my part to save every penny I can. And I have never been anything other that ecstatic to be here at SWA.

Assuming that you are real, I feel that I can speak for the rest of the SWA guys on this board in saying that you are an embarassment. I hope you dont act this way in public.

Humility is one of the "four H's" that we look for in who we hire. You're not showing much of it. Either youre one of those guys who feels the need to step on some toes behind the veil of anonymity that is the internet, or you're a crack slipper.----

Our management team needs the killer instinct. You, on the other hand, need only to shut the fcuk up and quit making us look like a bunch of a$$e$.

 

[propjob27]

You, on the other hand, need only to shut the fcuk up and quit making us look like a bunch of a$$e$.

Well said. As I said early on in this thread, I've met and drank with dozens of SWA pilots back when I was hanging out at Mr. C's everyday for about 4 months straight. 99% of them were good guys that made everyone feel decent about themselves, no matter who they flew for. None of them even remotely resembled Maryland Ones attitude; I don't think he gets invited to the bar that much.

 

[TexaSWA]

Well said. As I said early on in this thread, I've met and drank with dozens of SWA pilots back when I was hanging out at Mr. C's everyday for about 4 months straight. 99% of them were good guys that made everyone feel decent about themselves, no matter who they flew for. None of them even remotely resembled Maryland Ones attitude; I don't think he gets invited to the bar that much.

Andy wouldnt let him in the door.

 

[ivauir]

The final word:

1. There is nothing wrong with having the killer instinct in this industry.
2. It has nothing to do with being humble.
3. Take some business classes before you start spouting off about what you know nothing about.

1. There is nothing wrong with being kind.
2. There is no need to be arrogant. Nothing is gained by being a jerk.
3. We don't need to take any bussiness classes, we drive the airplanes like Herb wants us to. You need to shut your pie hole because you are the one who appears to be spouting off. So you've taken a couple of business classes and you think you are responsible for SWA's success (if you even work here)? The pilots at SWA are the benefactors of SWA's sucess, not the reason for it. While we are very productive and we've done a lot to save the company money, I see it more as a case of us not getting in the way of SWA's sucess. If you are under the impression that you are somehow better than the pilots at any other airline or that "killer instinct" is beneficial in 121 flying you need to forget the Top Gun fantasy.

As far as conpriacy theories

...but I think MarylandOne and SWAPoolie are the same person ... What gives?

Indeed' "what gives"? It seems far more likely that Flopgut and Marylandone are the same person. Whatever the case Marylandone does not remind me of a single person I've met at SWA.

 

[Chest Rockwell]

The final word:

1. There is nothing wrong with having the killer instinct in this industry.
2. It has nothing to do with being humble.
3. Take some business classes before you start spouting off about what you know nothing about.

MD1,

If this is what you think, you really don't get it. If you do work at SWA, I am ashamed of you. If you don't, I just feel sorry for you.

You should consider taking a class in "class".

CR

 

[Flopgut]

As far as conpriacy theories


Indeed' "what gives"? It seems far more likely that Flopgut and Marylandone are the same person. Whatever the case Marylandone does not remind me of a single person I've met at SWA.[/QUOTE]

That sort of charade is way past my computer skills. Is there anyway for the moderator to put the unedited contents of the post in question back up? Or look at the login patterns of both posters? It was just like Maryland1's comments, same tone and seemed to follow the debate. I have not seen that sort of thing happen myself and I thought one of the more savvy computer types would jump all over it.

My final thought in the form of a question:

Is SWA that good an airline? Or, is what has occured to the legacy airline business in the last four years been that bad?

The answer is almost equal parts of both but everyone has their own feelings on where the tipping point is. SWA is a great airline with bright people. I would like to point out that my reccomendation to the initial question of this thread was to pursue SWA as a first choice, and I work for CAL. I can acknowledge that it is the best choice right now, but SWA is not immune to similiar pitfalls that have affected others. And I especially think it is key for SWA employees to keep in mind that non-market, geopolitical factors have uniquely been to the detriment of legacy airlines. IMHO, that has been the tipping point. So, the idea that SWA needs to have, or has benefited from having a "killer instinct" no longer translates in todays environment. The last couple of posts correcting Maryland1 are indicative of a more good natured type of dialog we need to have. Lets keep the debate about fundamentals.

 

[cipolini]

Incorrect

After painstakingly reading this entire thread it has come to my attention you are all a bunch of geek losers who need to get a life.


Arguing about who is humble and who isn't? Like there is some status you have to meet to be a SWA puke. For years they hired whomever they could because no one wanted to be there. Now suddenly you have to be a humble angel to be there. Bite me. I have met plenty of SWA jerks that have gotten in the door before 9/11 because they were turned down by every other major.

Finally, Texas people need to get over the fact that hats and boots are for fags.

You are incorrect sir. I know plenty of pilots in the early 90s who paid 10K to get the type only to be turned down. One is a friend and quite arrogant and did not belong at SWA. Not saying that SWA is perfect, but they weren't cruising the streets begging pilots to work for them then either.

 

[Dolomite1and2]

Captain Ahab,
Thanks for those capital fashion tips and kudos on that fascinating choice for a user name: a demented old man, obsessed with pursuing an enormous sperm whale he named “Moby Dick”

 

[Dolomite1and2]

That was a complement

Avast, Captain Ahab! Either English isn’t your first language or you’re a product of one of those quaint multicultural schools (or perhaps you were absent the day they covered pronoun declension). Your repartee should have read: “Put a novel in front of a military boy and he scratches his head like a monkey.” Is that "enlightening?" Just the same, touché!

 

[Flyingdutchman]

My dig is bigger then yours.

You guys are a buch of little kids. Can't believe this crap.