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After further review.....Why fly a 7 7 7 when you can make more money flying a 7 3 7. Why spend that much time away from home to make less money?

I don't even see the Country of Texas on 98% of my trips. Plus, we gots the 1 - 2 - 3. CAL ain't gots the 1 - 2 - 3.
 
1-2-3 is the agreement SW has with the hotels they stay at for their drink prices.

$1 Beer

$2 Wine

$3 Mixed drinks

If I'm not mistaken.

FJ
 
$1 = beers
$2 = wine
$3 = appetizers

On every overnight baby!! Try that with a 7 7 7! Plus, our paint job looks better, ha!
 
SWA/FO said:
$1 = beers
$2 = wine
$3 = appetizers

On every overnight baby!! Try that with a 7 7 7! Plus, our paint job looks better, ha!
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With all of the "drunk pilot" press lately we should probably keep "1,2,3" on the down low. Imagine the headline some reporter with too much time on their hands would make out of us getting cheap drinks on overnights.
 
Just because one can buy a $1 drink doesn't mean one has a problem.

If you worked in the GO and you wanted to go home and have a beer after work you could from your own fridge. Which would come from the case you bought at krogers...and its unit cost would be probably less then a $1. So why not let the "front line" employees have that same benefit while on the road? Thus, the 1 - 2 - 3 was born..... thanks Ray!!!!

What a great company!!!
 
And the decision is...?

Just reread this entire thread. Fastone, did you ever come to a decision? And if you don't mind, would you fill us in on how you ranked the factors to determine your end result.

Thanks in advance and best of luck,
VVJM265
 
SWA/FO said:
Perhaps this new hire will get bumped from the 7 7 7 once CAL gets more then 3 of them and the senior guys want the 7 7 7. I just flew 777WN the other day. I've also flown 747WN, 757WN & 787SW.

I would go with who has never canceled a/c orders and who has never furloughed. Pick SWA baby!!!!
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First of all, this guy is asking for advice from us who have made the decision on where we went so it may help him do the same. So it would be nice to attempt to keep it somewhat serious.

Second, I can appreciate you speaking highly of your airline (SWA) but don't do it at the expense of putting another airline down. No, SWA has nevered furloughed and no they weren't affected by the events of 9-11 and the economic downturn as most of the other carriers particular the major/legacy airlines, though SWA did send some Captains back to right seat and hiring did cease for over a year.

I am a believer that past history is not an indicator of future performance. Though SWA hasn't been affected, watch what you say. It may, and I hope it doesn't, come back to haunt you. Yes, SWA has made money for most of the time they have been in business and has done quite well, but they aren't immune to it nor there are no garuntees in this business.

Just because a dog doesn't bark, or just because it wags its tail doesn't mean it won't bite. Remember this is the aviation business and alot of people at other places in the same situation over the years thought the same also. I wish you and all your SWA buddies good blessings and much long success but don't think you are not vunerable.
 
Swann757 said:
No, SWA has nevered furloughed and no they weren't affected by the events of 9-11 and the economic downturn as most of the other carriers particular the major/legacy airlines, though SWA did send some Captains back to right seat and hiring did cease for over a year.
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Yes they were affected. They just chose to do the right thing and take the hit instead of mass layoffs. Unlike EVERY other airline. That's what makes SWA the best. PERIOD!!
 
.....Has anyone seen my cat? His name is Mittens. Here P*ssy,P*ssy,P*ssy.....
 
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SWA or CAL

Maryland One,

I have been a SWA employee for a long time and people like you who sit and gloat over other folks misfortune make me ill. Yes, we work for a great company, and yes, they treat us very well. And I am one of the rank and file and quite well paid for those of you who think the rest of us make minimum wage. That being said, I think that it is foolish for those of us who work here to think that we are immune to falling on hard times. I choose to work my butt off and hope that we continue to make a profit and stay successful, but I certainly don't throw it in my pals who work at other carriers faces. One of the biggest problems that we as a company face is the over-inflated egos and 'this will never happen to us' mindset that some here have. We were always better when we were the underdog fighting for survival, and we are still fighting for survival.... unless you don't go to the message to the fields or listen to our fearless leader.
 
Pretty obvious that MarylandOne does not work for SWA
 
cipolini said:
Should have known he is probably a poser.
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You are probably right. In his last post, instead of saying "we" at SWA took the hit, he said "they". Doesn't sound like a team player for SWA to me.
 
OK interview

Not much about the biz talked about. Herb is pretty cool, needs to (at the very least) quit smokin reds.
 
TexaSWA said:
Pretty obvious that MarylandOne does not work for SWA
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Ask him some questions about 737 ops. specific to SWA that only a pilot will know. If he can answer them, well I feel for you guys.
 
Boeingman said:
Ask him some questions about 737 ops. specific to SWA that only a pilot will know. If he can answer them, well I feel for you guys.
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Yeah, fire away boys. I'll even quote you the FOM/FRM page number.

Fact is the Texasboy doesn't read my posts properly. While I feel SWA is the best airline out there doesn't mean I am resting on my laurels. Nor does it mean I'm gloating over other people's misfortune. The string involves a decision between two airlines. It's pretty clear, to me, which is better. Maybe Texasboy wishes he was somewhere else.

I see money being wasted each day by FOs and Capts alike that disappoint me. And I'll bet my 401k Texasboy is one of them. We need to make up, at a minimum, $500 million next year and every penny counts. Much like our CEO I want SWA to be the only carrier in town. The unfortunate result of that is people lose their jobs but in war people die and that's a fact. As long as it's not SWA people I live with it.

Do your part Texasboy and stop denouncing those who are happy to be here.
 
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Much like our CEO I want SWA to be the only carrier in town. The unfortunate result of that is people lose their jobs but in war people die and that's a fact. As long as it's not SWA people I live with it.
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I dont think our ceo wants this at all. competition is good and there is plenty of market out there for everyone. We dont operate to put others out of business. It can be argued that American does however make that a part of their business model. We just operate cheep flights, not to put others out of work but to give people the freedom to fly and make a profit.
 
flyingitalian said:
I dont think our ceo wants this at all. competition is good and there is plenty of market out there for everyone. We dont operate to put others out of business. It can be argued that American does however make that a part of their business model. We just operate cheep flights, not to put others out of work but to give people the freedom to fly and make a profit.
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Why is it we have gone into PIT and PHL so aggressively. How about building MDW like it's a fortress. To nail US Air and United when they are weak. It's no secret there are far too many seats out there and the demise of one airline will benifit everyone else standing.
 
MarylandONE said:
Why is it we have gone into PIT and PHL so aggressively. How about building MDW like it's a fortress. To nail US Air and United when they are weak. It's no secret there are far too many seats out there and the demise of one airline will benifit everyone else standing.
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Certainly not to be the only carrier in town. PIT and PHL because there are millions of people living within a 50 mile radius of the airport and because there were high airfares, but not to "nail" US air. MDW to secure limited realestate to ensure our expansion and to not compete head to head with another LCC in a realestate limited airport, but certainly not to "nail" United. We made these moves to stick to our model and that is the ability to compete not eliminate other carriers.

I dont think there are too many carriers out there, just not a level playing field. Chapter 11 laws allow companies to operate that should not be operating. European carrier are much stronger today because their law dont allow companies to operate in a chapter 11 environment and their market is the better for it.
 
I think you are living in the past. Gary is more aggressive than Herb was and I think he wants to make sure there are less seats available because that's what is killing us. Where else is there to go? We can serve any market we want but the fact still remains, there are to many airlines out there and we are the only airline that has the ability to make one go away.
 
flyingitalian said:
We dont make them go away they do it to themselves. This statement is a bit nieve. sp? Ill let you have the last word.
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I agree but I don't mind giving a man standing on a ledge about to commit suicide a little push.
 
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