SWA lands at wrong Branson Airport

[Flopgut]

Branson will possibly end up a special airport in the near term. And it probably should be. I don't know how SWA does special airports, but at cal there were many. Some were a bit unlikely, like Birmingham, AL. Unfortunately for us, in the last few weeks cal special airport protocol got changed by the brain surgeons. God help us.

 

[Sparse]

"Don't worry folks I was an F-16 pilot in the Air Force, your in good hands!

And you were not.

 

[Sparse]

Can't agree with that. It will never happen if you land on the runway at the end of the localizer, RNAV approach, VOR radial or just the extended centerline. To land at the wrong airport means they were using zero back up for SA. Call it like it is.....this was gross negligence.

We all make mistakes but not to this magnitude.

It's pretty obvious the only backups they had here were gps and fms visual to runway. That being said, if the fms map is not in the lowest scale, two very close runways can be super imposed over each other.

 

[Just thinking]

"two very close runways can be super imposed over each other"................

Not likely.... eight miles is quite significant when the aircraft position indicator is off course. The distance off course is displayed digitally at the bottom of the course line.
Put it on the 160 scale and you are still off course. A two second cross check would have verified the deviation.

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[eaglesview]

It's pretty obvious the only backups they had here were gps and fms visual to runway. That being said, if the fms map is not in the lowest scale, two very close runways can be super imposed over each other.

FMS and GPS normally have DME to the next fix. At some point that would have been the runway. As far as scale is concerned, use the appropriate scale. Still no excuse.

 

[Flopgut]

http://www.faircitynews.com/2014/01/15/no-bkg-campaign-launched-by-taney-co-airport-yakov/

Yes, this comic from 30 years ago is actually still alive and well, doing shows in Branson. Of note in the article is the FAA taking steps to further describe the airport environment. Picture pages would have helped. You all know the ones that show a VFR photo of each runway approach and includes large print, plane English descriptions of other airports in the area? Usually has wording like "do not confuse Point Lookout with Branson airport".

This one has got to be a joke:

http://www.faircitynews.com/2014/01...s-8-bonus-miles-for-landing-at-wrong-airport/

 

[Just thinking]

FAA Identifier: PLK

Elevation: 940 ft. / 286.5 m



FAA Identifier: BBG
Elevation: 1302 ft. / 397 m

Descended almost 400 below "briefed" field elevation.

 

[RLAblows]

It's pretty obvious the only backups they had here were gps and fms visual to runway. That being said, if the fms map is not in the lowest scale, two very close runways can be super imposed over each other.

KBBG has an RNAV approach to RWY 14 which has a FAF, and is in the FMS data base. KPLK isn't even in the database, so it would not even come up on the FMS map. If you're not reducing the scale on your map when entering a terminal area, then you just aren't using your equipment properly. It has a range selector for a reason.

 

[livin'thesim]

Anyone think it's ironic that on the 5 year anniversary of Sully successfully putting a crippled Airbus into the Hudson saving everyone on board we have folks on here actually defending to Airline pilots with a combines 28 years at SW that couldn't find the correct airport in VFR conditions. even student pilots would have some explaining to do.

Gross negligence plain and simple

If memory serves, didn't some a-hole from American give an interview in USA today after the ValuJet crash, talking about low quality pilots or something, only to have Cali happen just a little later? Or do I have that wrong?


The guy who thinks it will never happen to him is the most dangerous.

 

[madjack]

Someone's going to lose their job....