SWA Int'l Ops

[fr8doggie]

If you can't have fun in Lanzhou I don't know where you can!

 

[Taco Rocket]

SWA will fly the 787 internationally, initially to 50 cities, expanding to 300 by year's end. Captain rates will be $567/hr with F/Os to come from Mesa at their rates.

 

[scoreboardII]

Just heard we are getting 35 -800's instead of 25 in 2012. Yes, I know HI is not international, even less so than ELP.

 

[Ky.BrownBourbn]

I was trying to keep it serious and civil...

You may let the "Big ALPA carriers" figure it out but from what I read on this forum you guys are pretty much going to own the world in about ten years. So, you (meaning SWA pilots in general) might want to start thinking about override and perdiem, etc.

I'm sure that you have no interest in flying a 787 ATL-LHW with a nice 24-48hr layover. But there might be one or two SWA guys who would like it. Or maybe you could just shove that int'l over water onto the AirTran side.

Is it possible to have any kind of conversation with you guys without bringing up ALPA? Come on... I think Dan Roman (whistle me a tune, Dan!) is right. It's SWAPA rules ALPA sucks with you guys.

I always liked those LBB layovers. We used to stay at the "Next to Denny's" with you guys. Of course, that was before the internets was invented so we were friendly and polite with each other.

It wasn't a personal attack, don't take it as such! Being previous ALPA...ALPA sucks! Period, I never experienced them from a "mainline" perspective, on the regional side, they didn't care about anything but our money! It doesn't work to represent both sides (mainline and Regional) but we can save that argument for a different thread!

I have no desire for a 24-48 hour overnight, my time is worth more than $2.00 per hour plus whatever override ALPA or SWAPA negotiates, when I'm away from home, I want to work, that's how we get paid, I do 3 days that pay 24 or 25 and 4 days that pay 32-34. I have friends that fly Intl elsewhere that there trips pay nowhere close to that...it is what it is! When I'm at work, I want to get paid!

I'll be happy for SWAPA pilots to fly tons of Intl on a gazillion 787's or whatever airplane SWA flies, it means more profit sharing for me! And if I get stuck flying those long legs, I hope they have better seats up front than the 73!

As far as being serious and civil, it's flight info, nobody cares about being serious and civil...and for what it's worth, I still try to speak to everyone in uniform (or with an ID).

Later,
KBB

 

[Ky.BrownBourbn]

Just heard we are getting 35 -800's instead of 25 in 2012. Yes, I know HI is not international, even less so than ELP.

If I recall, the assembly line was at capacity...sounds like their are a few less deliveries coming elsewhere!

KBB

 

[ATRCA]

I've seen a great deal of talk about all the "Int'l" flying that Airtran does yet I don't think I've ever seen an AT aircraft anywhere but the Bahamas. Where does AT currently operate outside the US?

 

[scoreboardII]

If I recall, the assembly line was at capacity...sounds like their are a few less deliveries coming elsewhere!

KBB

That was the other part, someone else is getting fewer, don't know who.

 

[humveedriver]

I've seen a great deal of talk about all the "Int'l" flying that Airtran does yet I don't think I've ever seen an AT aircraft anywhere but the Bahamas. Where does AT currently operate outside the US?

Www.Airtran.com, look for the route map. We operate several aircraft with class 2 navigation, HF radios and rafts. That was to go to Bermuda, but is helpful on some other routes as well.

 

[carl p]

I've seen a great deal of talk about all the "Int'l" flying that Airtran does yet I don't think I've ever seen an AT aircraft anywhere but the Bahamas. Where does AT currently operate outside the US?

Aruba, Jamaica, CUN, Bermuda, San Juan, and Bahamas off the top of my head. Can't remember the IDs for them cause I'm in the 717 and don't go there...

 

[Fubijaakr]

Www.Airtran.com, look for the route map. We operate several aircraft with class 2 navigation, HF radios and rafts.

Just a reminder...Class 2 Nav doesn't equal ETOPS.

 

[Ky.BrownBourbn]

Www.Airtran.com, look for the route map. We operate several aircraft with class 2 navigation, HF radios and rafts. That was to go to Bermuda, but is helpful on some other routes as well.

I've flown an "Airtran" bird here at SW, 555SW, it's got all that stuff but I didn't use it for El Paso or Lubbock, it had other differences as well. We were getting a large mix of Aircraft in the 07-08 period that had alot of different stuff on them (Ford, air India A/C) they generally have oddball lav and seating configs...until the Virgin Blue A/c showed up, nothing had the HF radios or the rafts...the Airtran A/C were originally slated for the but after the acquisition, they were delivered here as ordered, wouldn't be surprised if some of that stuff is yanked out and sold, it's the SW way, money is money...and get use to hearing "fly it like a 200", anything that was extra Money is sold only to be needed and bought back later! Anyone remember my tire story!(brand new A/C show up with used tires, we lease recaps on a pay for departure or landing scenario!) Don't take it the wrong way, they have it wired to every penny saved. All in the end means more in my profit sharing! Herb (and those that followed) is a crude business man, great guy, loves to party but don't F with his (our) money!

Here come the (Sw) haters but it's why the place had been profitable since the early 70's.

Later,
KBB

 

[GIZMONC]

The only one I think you obmitted was Punta Cana International Airport (PUJ)
Punta Cana 23000, Dominican Republic

 

[humveedriver]

Just a reminder...Class 2 Nav doesn't equal ETOPS.

I was told we started with ETOPS in mind, but were able to do everything we needed to do with a 405 NM limitation. So far the only SATCOM/HF and raft birds I have flown have been over land. We can fly to all of our Carib destinations without that stuff except Bermuda. I think they were looking at more destinations prior to being bought.

To my knowledge some/all the SWA -800's will be ETOPS, with HI service in mind. They have a seperate program that their POI will approve.

 

[SWA Bubba]

I was told we started with ETOPS in mind, but were able to do everything we needed to do with a 405 NM limitation. So far the only SATCOM/HF and raft birds I have flown have been over land. We can fly to all of our Carib destinations without that stuff except Bermuda. I think they were looking at more destinations prior to being bought.

To my knowledge some/all the SWA -800's will be ETOPS, with HI service in mind. They have a seperate program that their POI will approve.

Yup, all the new -800 deliveries (starting in Feb 12) will come ETOPS from the factory. We also elected to add a new paint scheme option on them, in that instead of having "ETOPS" painted on the nose gear doors, it will say, "AK-killers. Blow me, Fubi."

Bubba

PS Legal Disclaimer: That last statement was intended solely as a joke/parody, and should not be taken seriously in any way. No actual offense to any airline, entity, or person, living or dead, should be inferred. All FAA regulations regarding proper aircraft markings will be followed as prescribed. Any anti-Fubi statements are solely for the innocent amusement of the author, and everyone else on this forum who shakes his or her head and sighs, "oh, that zany Fubi," everytime he makes a post.

 

[Flying the Line]

The answer to the question is, as soon as the SWA res system will allow for int'l flights and as soon as the 800s come on line.