SWA culture!

[jball2]

Dude, AAI has the more rapid gain of relative seniority, not us. That is the biggest problem, unless I read your post wrong.

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[dicko]

condenscending approach that is arrogant and a general representation of most the AT pilots on this board.


Ultimately, you need to know who will always have the final word. The choice will be yours. Are you going to be a SWA pilot? Or are you going to be a Tranny? Blend and no one will know the difference. Not doing so will fall you within the unpreventable stereo type that will follow you the rest of your career. No matter what career enhancements you will receive with this acquisition, you will feel different from the non-Tranny pilots.

You don't have to listen to this wise, old pilot. But everything I have just said will come to pass. Bank on it.

Up to now, it has been a smooth purchase for sure. Depending on how these integrations go, it could change in a New York minute. At this point, this is far from over.

SWA management will not and should not publish their concerns. But don't think for a moment that they don't have concerns. They do.

You begin by calling me arrogant and condescending; then you follow by becoming a caricature of those exact qualities. For a finale you throw in some threats.

Your post is the definition of arrogant and condescending. I spelled it correctly for you ..... "Wise old pilot".

The Tranny.

 

[Dash Power]

You begin by calling me arrogant and condescending; then you follow by becoming a caricature of those exact qualities. For a finale you throw in some threats.

Your post is the definition of arrogant and condescending. I spelled it correctly for you ..... "Wise old pilot".

The Tranny.

You just make it worse.

And it was a typing error. But you wouldn't be a dicko if you could recognize that otherwise.

 

[redflyer65]

For ATN pilots, your career earnings will increase dramatically regardless of your seniority. For SWA pilots, numerous seniority models will decrease our career earnings expectations. How you can think it's fair for some ATN pilots to earn an additional 1-2 million over their career while some SWA pilots take a loss is concerning.

It's not about beating the ATN pilots, its simply about protecting the career value of our pilots. It hardly seems unfair to protect our value while increasing yours.

Everyone needs to re-read this post, because from a Southwest perspective...this is where the rubber meets the road.

If CJ's upgrade is delayed by one month, two months, etc.. he has been harmed and his career earnings potentially decreased by a younger AAI group that could be ratioed ahead of him.

As stated before, it is completely quantifiable and I'm sure been presented to SW management and the AAI MC.

Spot on post MILF.

 

[Dash Power]

Dude, AAI has the more rapid gain of relative seniority, not us. That is the biggest problem, unless I read your post wrong.

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You are right. That explanation didn't read well. I have tried to fix the sentence.

Thanks

 

[dicko]

Dude, AAI has the more rapid gain of relative seniority, not us. That is the biggest problem, unless I read your post wrong.

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I completely understand the age differences and the inequity of the retirement numbers. More importantly; so do the Merger guys. They are working on it.

 

[dicko]

You just make it worse.

The truth often does. You'll be ok.

 

[waveflyer]

I understand exactly what you're saying, and there are several ways to address that in ISL models that won't harm either group. And it doesn't require doing what wave continually demands, in placing hundreds of AirTran pilots below Mr. Johnson. There are solutions to this, as long as people think rationally instead of emotionally.

"Demands"? Really?

Besides a general disagreement on this 1 topic PCL, and your willingness to actually PFT and look for all career short cuts, and your love for all things ALPA and unwillingness to critique it at all, and defense of ALPA in all things, and your lack of leadership and blaming pilots for any issue ALPA has, and your disappointment in losing ALPA, and scheming to retain ALPA, or at least your role in ALPA, and your apparent dislike of flying at all much less flying a solid line (I guess one doesn't have to like flying if they don't have to fight and scrap for those initial hours).... Besides that, there is only one difference between you and I, PCL: I KNOW I'm not important and in no position to "demand" anything of this great company.
I have complete trust in GK, SWA, SWAPA, and our NC/MC and will open-mindedly look at any proposals they present.
Who I don't trust is an ALPA national officer who stands to lose that position and was recalled for interfering in the SLI. I'll have a beer with you and talk women and sports and life- I won't give much credence or time to your thoughts on the SLI.

 

[jball2]

Thanks for fixing that Dash!

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[RLAblows]

Everyone needs to re-read this post, because from a Southwest perspective...this is where the rubber meets the road.

If CJ's upgrade is delayed by one month, two months, etc.. he has been harmed and his career earnings potentially decreased by a younger AAI group that could be ratioed ahead of him.

As stated before, it is completely quantifiable and I'm sure been presented to SW management and the AAI MC.

Spot on post MILF.

When was CJ's planned upgrade before the AirTran aquisition? We would need to know that, but remember, no speculation about the future. Those aren't my rules, it just gets repeated by every SWA pilot on this board.