SWA - AAI question

[texman]

SWAPA's contract is binding. I feel bad that ALPA thinks they have a say in all areas in relation to the transition. GK and SWAPA will take care of there own first. I am confident it will work out for all.

 

[PCL_128]

So, what I'm asking is, what are the recourses for AAI guys if your contract is not followed exactly as written? Do you think you are just going to march into a federal court and shut down an airline or do you think you will put it through a grievance process which in itself can take a year or more?

Our holding company side letter is signed directly with AirTran Holdings, which isn't an air carrier. System Boards of Adjustment (the grievance process) only apply to air carriers, not to their holding companies. A court of law is the appropriate venue to resolve disputes related to agreements with the holding company.

OK..... I just read the update. You Airtran guys need to pick up the phone and ask WTF. You aren't even willing to keep negotiating the process agreement until you talk to your Mommy? That'd be funny if it wasn't so sad. Gup

I think you are misinformed.

 

[humveedriver]

The best way to settle this is to have FDJ2 represent the AT pilots and S3sundowner represent the SWA pilots in a cage fight. The AT trainer will be our junior Capt and SWA trainer will be thier senior FO. We could make it really sporty and have the arbitrator throw weapons into the center of the cage at various points in the fight. Anyone else onboard with this?

 

[S3sundowner]

Lol. If only it were that simple.....

 

[ivauir]

I think you are misinformed.

Then inform us PCL.

It sounds like the Merger Committees agree on the actual process to get an ISL. From your own update:

Disagreement remains on the critical issue of completing an operational merger within a specified time. As such, both sides agreed to defer further discussion. In the meantime, we will work instead to arrange a meeting between SWAPA, ALPA, and the managements of AirTran and Southwest, with the goal of concluding work on a Process Agreement; reaching a common understanding of the merger process; and discussing Transition Agreements to protect the interests of AirTran and Southwest pilots during the period between the Date of Corporate Closing (DOCC) and an operational merger of the two carriers. The MEC will have additional information on plans for those meetings, coming soon

 

[PCL_128]

My understanding is that there are still a few issues left open in the Process Agreement.

 

[ivauir]

My understanding is that there are still a few issues left open in the Process Agreement.

But from the update it doesn't sound like they have anything to do with negotiating the seniority list.

Aren't you on the transition team? Weren't you there?

 

[Slug]

My understanding is that there are still a few issues left open in the Process Agreement.

yes, and so your NC decides to quit talking and try to influence the transition agreement between SWAPA and SWA?

 

[27 driver]

There was no updated saying that ALPA was holding up the process. It may be happening but they did not say that to the membership. At least I didn't get that update anyway.

 

[Bill Nelson]

Disagreement remains on the critical issue of completing an operational merger within a specified time. As such, both sides agreed to defer further discussion. In the meantime, we will work instead to arrange a meeting between SWAPA, ALPA, and the managements of AirTran and Southwest,

27 driver, This doesn't sound like Process agreement topics to me. It sounds like your transition team is holding the Process agreement up.

I love the SWAPA President but I better not find out he is in the room with our N/C during SLI talks. I can't believe you guys are Letting your MEC chairman negotiate the SLI for you. I find that very odd.