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Airfares had already shot up this summer, and now comes word of "surcharges" of up to $30 each way for "peak travel days."

Almost every day this summer is considered "peak."

Five airlines, including Fort Worth-based American, count 73 of 74 summer travel days as "peak," said Rick Seaney, operator of travel website FareCompare.com. Only the historically low travel day of July Fourth is not included.


"They've been changing in price, but they range from $10 to $30," Seaney said. "What they're doing is targeting special days where they know their planes are going to be completely packed and charging a premium for those days."


An analysis by Seaney's website found Tuesdays generally have the lowest surcharge -- just $10 each way. Mondays, Thursdays, Fridays and Saturdays are $20. The busiest travel day, Sunday, has the highest surcharge of $30.

Fourth of July Only Summer Day Without "Peak" Surcharge

The costs are in addition to higher base fares.

"A lot of people have been expecting summer fare sales," Seaney said. "They saw one every week last year. This year, we have hardly seen any summer sales at all."

With the economy improving, people are traveling more, according to experts. Demand for tickets is up, but airlines are not increasing the number of flights.
"Airlines have not given back any of the seats they took away for the last two or three years, so there's a lot fewer seats, and that's driving up prices," Seaney said.

The airlines charging the summer peak fees include American, Delta, Continental, United and US Airways, he said.

Dallas-based Southwest Airlines does not add on any surcharges, but Seaney said the discount carrier has not had a major sale since November.

Passengers at Dallas/Fort Worth Airport on Monday made it clear they don't like the add-on fees.

"I'd appreciate it if they wouldn't," said one man in Terminal D who was heading to Africa for a few months of mission work.

"Now they figure everyone has money in their pockets -- cha-ching," another woman said.
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If the airlines complain about government intervention, some might claim they are their own worse enemy. Simply raise the base fare to whatever it takes to make the necessary income.

Labeling a price increase above what the "ticket costs" in this manner and others to most is false advertising.

Just like when General Motors President/CEO claimed they had paid back their government loan when in fact they had paid back barely 10% of the total amount of money given to them by the government, these types of surcharges simply annoys the traveling public and politicians alike.

SWA's ticket prices have gone up and yes there are fees on overweight bags, pets, UMs and passengers with bags over 2. However, those circumstances are very different than what is being described here IMHO.

The decision to use this type of marketing and gimmickry comes down to leadership and those at the top making the right call. It further illustrates IMHO the lack of customer awareness these leaders have toward the very customers they say they are serving.
 
How bout a Pilot Fee? Maybe $3 a passenger for Capt, $2 for FO...How bout that for a fee Harvard Business school Retards!
 
Airfares had already shot up this summer, and now comes word of "surcharges" of up to $30 each way for "peak travel days."

Almost every day this summer is considered "peak."

Five airlines, including Fort Worth-based American, count 73 of 74 summer travel days as "peak," said Rick Seaney, operator of travel website FareCompare.com. Only the historically low travel day of July Fourth is not included.


"They've been changing in price, but they range from $10 to $30," Seaney said. "What they're doing is targeting special days where they know their planes are going to be completely packed and charging a premium for those days."


An analysis by Seaney's website found Tuesdays generally have the lowest surcharge -- just $10 each way. Mondays, Thursdays, Fridays and Saturdays are $20. The busiest travel day, Sunday, has the highest surcharge of $30.

Fourth of July Only Summer Day Without "Peak" Surcharge

The costs are in addition to higher base fares.

"A lot of people have been expecting summer fare sales," Seaney said. "They saw one every week last year. This year, we have hardly seen any summer sales at all."

With the economy improving, people are traveling more, according to experts. Demand for tickets is up, but airlines are not increasing the number of flights.
"Airlines have not given back any of the seats they took away for the last two or three years, so there's a lot fewer seats, and that's driving up prices," Seaney said.

The airlines charging the summer peak fees include American, Delta, Continental, United and US Airways, he said.

Dallas-based Southwest Airlines does not add on any surcharges, but Seaney said the discount carrier has not had a major sale since November.

Passengers at Dallas/Fort Worth Airport on Monday made it clear they don't like the add-on fees.

"I'd appreciate it if they wouldn't," said one man in Terminal D who was heading to Africa for a few months of mission work.

"Now they figure everyone has money in their pockets -- cha-ching," another woman said.
______________

If the airlines complain about government intervention, some might claim they are their own worse enemy. Simply raise the base fare to whatever it takes to make the necessary income.

Labeling a price increase above what the "ticket costs" in this manner and others to most is false advertising.

Just like when General Motors President/CEO claimed they had paid back their government loan when in fact they had paid back barely 10% of the total amount of money given to them by the government, these types of surcharges simply annoys the traveling public and politicians alike.

SWA's ticket prices have gone up and yes there are fees on overweight bags, pets, UMs and passengers with bags over 2. However, those circumstances are very different than what is being described here IMHO.

The decision to use this type of marketing and gimmickry comes down to leadership and those at the top making the right call. It further illustrates IMHO the lack of customer awareness these leaders have toward the very customers they say they are serving.


Check it out, Chase is "bragging" that SWA is leaving money on the table....same with the extra bag fees. Guess what? SWA will fill all of their seats anyway, but instead of making even more money, they choose not to. Oh well. Just think, if SWA added one extra fee (although now they charge extra $ to board sooner) they could raise enough cash to buy Spirit Air, their next conquest? They could force the Spirit pilots to get a STAPLE job at SWA so they (the SWA pilots) can feel better about themselves.....just like you tried to do to the F9 guys.



Bye Bye--General Lee
 
I know Chase and I've never known him to "brag" about anything.

So, what was his point about posting this article?? That Southwest is different? Who cares? Is he trying to sell tickets? He should get on TV and pitch for them......someone has GOT to change that saying "It's ON." No, it's not. It's GHAY.


Bye Bye--General Lee
 
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General,

Not bragging General, just posting the article with some commentary about "leadership", something that gets talked about here quite often.
Most of the time it is when "leadership", i.e. management is sticking it to the pilots on this forum and their is plenty of angst expressed.

No pilots made the decision to charge for bags but as you said, management did (and you apparently approve of it).... money is being left on the table by SWA and being swept up by your leadership/management and others. The consensus out there among many analysts is "more, more more...good on them".

Why should you care if the passengers, the folks who pay the freight are getting misled with misleading fares that come with an additional baggage fee(s).

However, please don't come back on the forum and complain about the same leadership/management that uses the same approach (taking money off the table) in dealing harshly or in an unfair manner with a labor group and wishes to keep some of that money you feel you are entitled too.

The management you praise now will act with the same degree of callousness and disregard for you as they are for their passengers.

What's good for the goose is good for the labor groups also...no surprises.

BTW, I got a great idea recently from one of our CAs...I now tell each plane load of passengers approximately how much money SWA is saving them on each flight with the bags fly free program...on average around $2-$3000 per flight when averaging about 100 bags per flight at an average cost of $25 per bag. They all hoop and holler and usually say thanks on the way out.

Why don't you try the reverse and thank all your passengers as they are walking out, "hey sorry to take an extra $3-$4000 out of ya'ls pocket but we can't make money otherwise without these bag fees." Let me know how that conversation goes. ;)
 

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