Strike/Netjets

[Diesel]

oh crap it will never happen!!! I should just give up and roll friggin over and maybe i should pay the company to work. yeah that's the idea.

Thanks for the support though. enjoy airnow

 

[buttercup]

oh crap it will never happen!!! I should just give up and roll friggin over and maybe i should pay the company to work. yeah that's the idea.

Thanks for the support though. enjoy airnow

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I wouldn't be suprised.. You are just happy to be flying a jet

 

[Diesel]

it's all about me me me me me me me me. I'm flying a jet who cares about the pay or work rules.

 

[Rattler71]

I think the pay you guys get is way on the low side. But I do think that asking for $150,000 is just unrealistic. The flying you do is no harder nor requires any more skill than most of the other guys on this board flying for a living. I think it is the arrogance that some of you(fracs) pilots are displaying that turns people off.

Rattler71

 

[Diesel]

Hey AS214 we're asking for tooo much. RTS might not be able to buy that other horse or another house. Dear god call the union and have them revamp our pay request. We need to work for less not more. Please god don't ask for too much money.

So because we are asking for too much money we're turning people off? Man i wonder if united had that problem. ha haaaa

Oh you might want to tell G200 and GVflyer they are getting too much money.

 

[buttercup]

Hey AS214 we're asking for tooo much. RTS might not be able to buy that other horse or another house. Dear god call the union and have them revamp our pay request. We need to work for less not more. Please god don't ask for too much money.

So because we are asking for too much money we're turning people off? Man i wonder if united had that problem. ha haaaa

Oh you might want to tell G200 and GVflyer they are getting too much money.

LOL.. You know what the sad thing is..people in this industry have been beat down and conditioned for so long that they think 150K is good money.. sad... I don't know where that mindset came into play in this industry.. Why do some feel that making good money and enjoying your work at the same time are not possible?

 

[Rattler71]

Hey AS214 we're asking for tooo much. RTS might not be able to buy that other horse or another house. Dear god call the union and have them revamp our pay request. We need to work for less not more. Please god don't ask for too much money.

So because we are asking for too much money we're turning people off? Man i wonder if united had that problem. ha haaaa

Oh you might want to tell G200 and GVflyer they are getting too much money.

Not just the money, Some of you guys have made it clear to everyone that you are a special breed, and noone else could do what you do. So that combined with that unrealistic money request, yes, would turn some people off of your quest. And noone ever said you should work for less.

Rattler71

 

[buttercup]

Not just the money, Some of you guys have made it clear to everyone that you are a special breed, and noone else could do what you do. So that combined with that unrealistic money request, yes, would turn some people off of your quest. And noone ever said you should work for less.

Rattler71

You think 150k a year is an unrealistic request to be on the road for half the year. At Netjets on the 7/7 schedule you can work up to 14 hours per day. 14 times 7 =108 times 2=216 hours of work per month.. Oh and by the way that's conservative.. I consider all time away from home work!! I'm sorry if you feel that's unrealistic , but I have some self-worth Kool-Aid I'd like to sell you.

 

[Rattler71]

You think 150k a year is an unrealistic request to be on the road for half the year. At Netjets on the 7/7 schedule you can work up to 14 hours per day. 14 times 7 =108 times 2=216 hours of work per month.. Oh and by the way that's conservative.. I consider all time away from home work!! I'm sorry if you feel that's unrealistic , but I have some self-worth Kool-Aid I'd like to sell you.

Ha you are funny, you think you guys are the only ones who spend time on the road. I am writing this from a hotel room where I have been on the road for 2 weeks and have 2 weeks left to go. boo-hoo

Rattler71

 

[El Chupacabra]

Do you come hear to make friends?

I am all broken up about turning people off. I think I'll ask for less money now....

I don't wanna hurt somebody's feelings.

 

[Rattler71]

LOL.. You know what the sad thing is..people in this industry have been beat down and conditioned for so long that they think 150K is good money.. sad... I don't know where that mindset came into play in this industry.. Why do some feel that making good money and enjoying your work at the same time are not possible?

Not saying the money wouldn't be earned, just saying it is never going to happen. If it does,more power to you for having the guts to out there and risk your job and fight for it.

Rattler71

 

[buttercup]

Ha you are funny, you think you guys are the only ones who spend time on the road. I am writing this from a hotel room where I have been on the road for 2 weeks and have 2 weeks left to go. boo-hoo

Rattler71

That's a great attitude to have.. Being away from home for a month at a time.. If you are married how's that working out with the wife? Has the pool boy and gardner been stopping by a little more often than not..

 

[GVFlyer]

Oh you might want to tell G200 and GVflyer they are getting too much money.

Yeah, right. I'd be receptive to that. I want a bigger raise this year. As long as the company is doing well, I should be doing equally as well.

GV

 

[El Chupacabra]

Aren't you afraid you might hurt somebody's feelings and turn people off?

 

[avbug]

I do not fly fractional and trying to keep it that way, Im just an old Cub Driver, might go into crop dusting, a proffesion without upset pilots.

Ag pilots are as upset as any, they just don't whine about it as much.

You'll find it's a whole lot easier to get hired into an airline or a fractional operation, or a corporate position, than to get hired as an ag pilot.

If santulli can't afford to pay us what we want then just shut it down. If an owner can't afford to have a well paid professional crew up front then he shouldn't be in this buisness.

Just want to make sure I heard that right...

If santulli can't afford to pay us what we want then just shut it down.

One more time...

If santulli can't afford to pay us what we want then just shut it down.

That's what I thought you said. If you dont what you want, however ridiculous or unrealistic it may be, then you're not only going to take your ball and bat and go home, but bust the show for everybody else, put hundreds of others out of work, and ruin it for everybody. Yep. That's what I thought you said, and you did.

Smart boy. Arrogant, but you're a smart one.

How about if Santulli can't afford to pay you what you want, then go elsewhere and let the company run without you? But you didn't say that, did you?

 

[Rattler71]

That's a great attitude to have.. Being away from home for a month at a time.. If you are married how's that working out with the wife? Has the pool boy and gardner been stopping by a little more often than not..

Just trying to show you that you are not the only one who spends time away from home. Like I said earlier, your arrogance is your biggest enemy. How about leaving wives out of this. Just shows what little class you actually have.

Rattler71

 

[buttercup]

Just trying to show you that you are not the only one who spends time away from home. Like I said earlier, your arrogance is your biggest enemy. How about leaving wives out of this. Just shows what little class you actually have.

Rattler71

To be classy you first must love yourself and understand what you are worth.. Apparently you have no concept of how much you deserve to get paid so I can't debate it with you anymore. Good luck to you.

 

[El Chupacabra]

as214,

You are hurting people's feelings again. You arrogant SOB.

Didn't our last MEC tell you we don't want to ask for too much ... we don't want to make them mad?

 

[Rattler71]

To be classy you first must love yourself and understand what you are worth.. Apparently you have no concept of how much you deserve to get paid so I can't debate it with you anymore. Good luck to you.

Well just so you know I make $85000/year, not counting perdiem.

A lot of people would love to get paid what they think they are worth, but very few actually do.

 

[buttercup]

Well just so you know I make $85000/year, not counting perdiem.

A lot of people would love to get paid what they think they are worth, but very few actually do.

85 k a year to be away for a month at a time..You deserve much much more than that... Good luck to you

 

[FLYLOW22]

Spoken like a true scab.

Don't worry Griz. After the contract is done... the Single Carrier Status lawsuit will be next. He'll enjoy Indoc again.

 

[Diesel]

Jesus 85k a year to be away from home a month? Jesus you shouldn't even be in this conversation you have NO self worth.

I don't count perdiem in my pay. Per diem is a variable that i don't expect to see in my paycheck so it is not part of it.

Now if you said you fly 1 month a year and only make 85k then i'd have major respect for you but I don't think that's the case.

A lot of people would love to get paid what they think they are worth, but very few actually do.

That honestly is my favorite line in the world. I mean why even bother asking. Oh god don't rock the boat. Don't make the boss mad. Haaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

 

[Rattler71]

Jesus 85k a year to be away from home a month? Jesus you shouldn't even be in this conversation you have NO self worth.

I don't count perdiem in my pay. Per diem is a variable that i don't expect to see in my paycheck so it is not part of it.

Now if you said you fly 1 month a year and only make 85k then i'd have major respect for you but I don't think that's the case

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You know Diesel, I was actually enjoying our banter back and forth, but someone always crosses the line. You telling me I have no self-worth is odd, considering you do not know me or anything about me. I believe you have a lot of class, to bad it is all low.

Rattler71

 

[Diesel]

Rattler you're the one who decided to jump into this fight. Problem was you didn't have anything to back up your wild claims. Just 27 years of albeit "interesting" employment.

You had about 12 posts before getting involved in this thread. You HAD to stick your nose in saying we shouldn't make the money. Or that we were high because we were asking for it. YOU had to impose what you felt we should make.

Don't bring a knife to a gunfight.

 

[Rattler71]

Rattler you're the one who decided to jump into this fight. Problem was you didn't have anything to back up your wild claims. Just 27 years of albeit "interesting" employment.

You had about 12 posts before getting involved in this thread. You HAD to stick your nose in saying we shouldn't make the money. Or that we were high because we were asking for it. YOU had to impose what you felt we should make.

Don't bring a knife to a gunfight.

Just because I had 12 post before I started doesn't mean a thing. How many post do I need before I start posting? geez.

I never said you shouldn't make a $150,000/yr. I said management will never pay it.

I also never said what you should make. That's not my call.

And again, this is a forum, if noone post, then it is no longer a forum.

And out of curiosity, what wild claims?

Seems to me you are just making stuff up.

Rattler71

 

[avbug]

Don't bring a knife to a gunfight.

This is a little off-topic, but that saying is usually bantied about by those who haven't a clue what they're saying (with regards to knives, and gunfights). A lot of folks have found out too late that very often, it works the other way around.

It's not the tool, it's how you use it.

 

[El Chupacabra]

I am actually pretty good with a baseball bat.

 

[Some Dude]

Your all stupid, EJA (NJA now )did have a point when we had only about 20 airplanes and the mechanics threaten to strike. Santulli gave them what they wanted as soon as he found out the pilots would walk also. It took about two hours.