Stop extending Nja brothers

[727C47]

i'm one of the 495, NJA has its pro's and con's, the dues refund was unprecedented, (and welcome), the lack of mention in dispatches have some of the post '05 brothers,and sisters not feeling the love, and feeling all forgotten like, I have been blessed to soft land into the right seat of Big Mama worldwide, some of my brothers are still knocking on doors,flying desks,or worse,for their sakes may the recalls begin sooner ,not later,management, is never your friend, uncle warren is management,may NJASAP hold their feet to the fire, may it get uncomfortably warm for them, and if 11 selloffs have occurred may those top 10-12 get called back post haste, God bless,peace out.

 

[imacdog]

Sooo... Then what???

You no longer support the union? What does that mean? Does that mean you'd scab? Extend? Fly broken planes?


Be careful how you word things.

And you should be even more careful making assumptions.

 

[VGerect]

Sooo... Then what???

You no longer support the union? What does that mean? Does that mean you'd scab? Extend? Fly broken planes?

Be careful how you word things.

The Union has not supported us since we got our dues refund and were cut loose from NJA. That dues refund now seems like a divorce settlement from an ex-spouse who's only gotten uglier and crazier as the years go by.

I have no love for a "union" who regularly sends out propaganda espousing "Unity & Solidarity" and can't even mention it's 495 furloughed members in the year end letter. The same union who's E-board is almost all on the 18 day schedule. The same union who can't equate working extended days with prolonging the furloughed pilots recall. The same union who cut off message board access to it's furloughed pilots and lied about the reason.

Fisch- I also hold the company in similar contempt. They have gotten around the selloff provisions of the CBA by unethical tactics like having owners contact EJM directly to book a charter instead of having NJA get them a selloff flight under their contract hours. The union has left a hole in the CBA scope clause big enough to fly a Global through and nobody seems to be able or willing to stop it.

 

[fischman]

And you should be even more careful making assumptions.

Which assumptions did I make exactly? You are the only one making assumptions here.

 

[imacdog]

If you weren't making assumptions, you wouldn't have felt the need to make your post. Not that you're taken seriously on the boards anyway.

 

[fischman]

If you weren't making assumptions, you wouldn't have felt the need to make your post. Not that you're taken seriously on the boards anyway.

mmmk there big guy...

 

[billybob]

HEY,

pissing at the union or the company only, or on falcon nose tires!

 

[say again]

I'm sick of doing all these trips for you guys!! And no, I can't refuse the trips, as much as I wish I could.

 

[Wankel7]

I'm sick of doing all these trips for you guys!! And no, I can't refuse the trips, as much as I wish I could.

You are flying selloff trips for Netjets?

If so can you report those to the NJ union?

 

[av8trinabarrel]

Does it really even matter what information this union receives anymore?

 

[Downwind]

Does it really even matter what information this union receives anymore?

This.

 

[Some guy]

I almost forgot. 98 guys at Nja are in need of a code red.

Could these 98 include those who couldn't get home in time at the end of their week and got home the next day? In some of those cases, it's beyond the control of the pilot and / or company.

 

[Pervis]

Could these 98 include those who couldn't get home in time at the end of their week and got home the next day? In some of those cases, it's beyond the control of the pilot and / or company.

Any of the former NJI crews who remained on their origional pay schedule DO NOT get after midnights. When they get home a day late, it is coded as an extended day. Last I looked about half of the very small number of extended days (in the scheme of things) were large cabin pilots.

 

[gutshotdraw]

Any of the former NJI crews who remained on their origional pay schedule DO NOT get after midnights. When they get home a day late, it is coded as an extended day. Last I looked about half of the very small number of extended days (in the scheme of things) were large cabin pilots.

Exactamundo.

Also, those of us still on NJI pay, when airlining home from an international departure point, if the duty day exceeds 18 hours, we get paid a day of overtime since we don't get hourly overtime (or holiday pay, but I digress). That day of overtime is also coded as an extended day.

Bottom line, there are fewer true "extended days" in the GLC than you think. In my case, that number would be zero.

 

[gutshotdraw]

And before you go thinking that's a wonderful deal, let me tell you that when you airline TO a jet, you don't get DIDLY no matter HOW LONG the duty day is. No hourly overtime, no extended day, zip, zero, nada. And you can't refuse it either. My record is 22 hours of duty to get to Helsinki.

As an added bonus, if the airline flight time is under 10 hours, you get to ride in COACH. Even if the layovers and plane changes push the duty day to 15, 18, 20 hours or whatever.

And you can't fatigue travel duty.