Stop extending Nja brothers

[av8trinabarrel]

I think the only way we can slow that number down is to emphasize to the active group that extending is hurting them(not us furloughed). There are many who feel the plight of the 495 outcasts, but many don't care or even know we're still furloughed. Pilots through history have shown they protect their own ass first and foremost. If these guys realize they are screwing themselves, maybe that number will drop and we the furloughed will benefit from their scraps. Pathetic to say that, but I see no other way. That 98 figure is pathetic....

 

[billybob]

I almost forgot. 98 guys at Nja are in need of a code red.

 

[Pervis]

That's 98 extended duty days in the month of August. That may include several days for one pilot during his/her tour, such as GLC pilots. Let's use a the number of 1200 pilots on duty every day of the month. That's 36,000 total duty days. The extended days amount to 0.27% of the total duty days in any given month. Yea, 98 looks like a big number by itself, but broken down the total number of duty days involved sheds a different light, don't you think?

Personally I won't extend, but exercising one's contractual right is not something I will judge. For example, one of our pilots is trying to deal with a family member with stage 4 prostate cancer. That person may well extend when possible to deal with the costs beyond insurance benefits. Are all for a valid reason such as this example? Heck no, but I don't know so will not judge. Be PO'd at the EMT for their practice of divide and conquer. Doubt their effectiveness? Just go to the majors board and watch those guys rip each other apart.

 

[DC-4]

Well Written Post Pervis, you make some valid points don't agree with them all but none the less some food for thought for sure.

 

[Xcorporate]

Agree, that puts the number into perspective. I do wish we had a better vehicle to communicate these days than a public forum.

I support the active pilot group, but this union has made it hard to not feel divided. We are far from conquered though.

Thanks for the scale on the extended days.....

 

[billybob]

Pervis,
Thanks for the numbers and a different way of looking at it. It is a drop in the bucket and a small one. I would guess it is a feel good thing of not picking up open time and a show of solidarity if nothing else. Thanks again

Thoughts on the 18 day and it's impact?

 

[gunfyter]

18 day adds a lot of man days but won't they just junior man it?

 

[billybob]

It would be nice to see them be at a place where the company had to force guys to the 18 day not the other way around. But it takes time to bid guys off of it. That's why we need to start a push now for that.

I just don't want to see the pilots ripping each other over it. No code red just yet

 

[ghostrider64]

You really should focus on what's preventing recalls, not what you think is.

In reality, the inability of pilots to leave is what's causing the lack of recalls. When there is incentive and financial ability of people to retire or there is the ability on pilots to find emeployment elsewhere, in large numbers, the company will be forced to recall.

We saw this witch hunt during that past negotiations, referencing extenders. This didn't delay anything. The CBA was signed only after the pledge was followed by some 300 pilots. 300 out of 1500!!!!

But it's easy to focus on the extenders as bad people....similar to hunting pets. But I know you'll continue to focus on this minute percentage of a percentage.

This tactic does nothing but stir up unwanted strife within the ranks. All this does is make it a hostile place to work. The majors know very well what goes on at "other" places. Perhaps going to work, dealing with your own work day, and forgetting about what others are doing, or not doing, would better serve you, and others... At least then, we wouldn't develop the worst attitude of any workforce since, USair and America west merged.... Because this is where we are headed.....

 

[imacdog]

Sorry to say this Ghost but the reputation of NJA pilots' attitudes goes a ways back.