Spirit T/A Details?

[RJ Bum]

RJ Captains make more than that.

Maybe in the year 2000...

 

[RJ Bum]

first year as an airline pilot? Most newhires will have 5-10 years at a regional before getting the pleasuer of working at $38.50/hr. For a year. The dues have already been paid!!!

+1000000

 

[RJ Bum]

Starting to get REAL tired of hearing that.

Ever heard of inflation?

You can google it if you haven't.

What cost $38.50 in 1980, costs $98.94 in 2009....
or vice versa $38.50 in 2009 is $14.98 in 1980.

Lack of this basic understanding, along with the time-value of money invested and the absurdity of relying on a corporate funded pension is the reason why folks don't have the money to retire at 60.

well said

 

[pipejockey]

Maybe in the year 2000...

IN THE YEEEEAR TWO THOOOSAAAAND....IN THE YEEEEAR TWO THOOOSAAAAND

A young and enthusiastic twentysomething, decides to make his dream a reality and embark on an exciting and lucrative new career. One in which garners respect and admiration of the general public, 6 figure salaries, wonderful benefits and an incredible pension (you know, all those things that don't exist anymore). Ten years later that same vigorous and ambitious young man is now approaching 40 and living in a VAN DOWN BY THE RIVER!!!

I guess he should have saved a lot of time and money and gone into management! Well don't I now feel the fool!

 

[PCL_128]

I think it's time ALPA starts hiring full time negotiators like management has

ALPA already employs dozens of professional negotiators. Two of the most experienced worked with the Spirit NC on this TA.

 

[say again]

ALPA already employs dozens of professional negotiators. Two of the most experienced worked with the Spirit NC on this TA.

Looks like they need more experience. Not a very good TA.

 

[Lear70]

Depends what you compare it to.

It's not a Major airline T.A. Spirit isn't a Major. It's on the Majors board because of the equipment they fly, that they fly to international destinations, and because they're an ALPA carrier. A lot of pilots want to know what's going on at Spirit so we let it sit in the Majors forum out of courtesy.

It technically belongs in the LCC / Nationals forum. They got a contract that basically puts them where AirTran was 10 years ago and, shocker, they're about the size AirTran was 10 years ago.

Yes, they have potential to grow dramatically, just like AirTran did, and maybe in 10 years, they'll be full-on Major airline status with 1,000+ pilots and will be working on a Major airline contract. Until then, this is their bridge contract taking them from where they are now towards a better working environment.

Only they can say if it's good enough for them. I have my personal opinions but, since it's not my airline, I've decided in the past 24 hours after reading the T.A. to not comment unless asked about very specific sections BY SPIRIT PILOTS. I still doubt it will be a slam-dunk, pretty sure it's going to be one of those 60/40 kind of votes but my sneaky suspicion is that it will pass...

 

[say again]

Key phrase Lear70-"They got a contract that basically puts them where AirTran was 10 years ago and, shocker, they're about the size AirTran was 10 years ago." Do you think that's a good thing?

 

[CFIT]

ALPA already employs dozens of professional negotiators. Two of the most experienced worked with the Spirit NC on this TA.

Kind of like the journalist that ALPO pays over $140,000.00 a year to write articles like "Tim is ALPA"?

Everybody at Herdon is over paid, except the secrateries, that's why they struck against ALPO.

Did the Spirit pilots get a lifetime pension like the on Prater has?

 

[samballs]

ALPA already employs dozens of professional negotiators. Two of the most experienced worked with the Spirit NC on this TA.

If CT is one of those then that explains why this is so bad