Spirit Roadshow and TA vote

[Caveman]

I'm referring to post #62 in this thread--I wasn't talking to you but to the other who weigned in with no invite. You responded to something else. I appreciate your input on your contract details which was requested. We have gotten more from others too. Thanks to all.

Fair enough. I wish you and all Spirit pilots the very best. I've been through a work action and it's very, very stressful. Cheers.

 

[lostplnetairman]

Idiot people?

You walked the line for garbage. It's your sh*t sandwich.

Enjoy!

Yes you have demonstrated my point! Pronouncements based on speculations. Idiot people!

 

[lostplnetairman]

Fair enough. I wish you and all Spirit pilots the very best. I've been through a work action and it's very, very stressful. Cheers.

Thanks and thanks for the input--it is appreciated.

 

[Mach 80]

Congratulations to the Spirit pilots for a great example of unity. Now, if you could just get that one guy to quit adding "wilco" at the end of nearly every response to ATC.

 

[redflyer65]

Where's the vote results from the TA?

 

[bubbers44]

Mach 80, I think he must be military because I had an FO that couldn't call the tower without saying Gear down and locked on a 757.

 

[huncowboy]

See you have no clue! You are wrong.

And the NC was comprised of 2/3 FO's.

Idiot people weighing in...

He is wrong?

Question of the day: Those FOs are about to become what fairly soon? ... anyone? ... come on... anyone? I will save you the drama. Except for one they will all be CAs in 2011 some may be even in 2010 as long they get the rumored growth.

Guess who is interested in any kind of movement out of the group? The already CAs? Nope. The junior FOs? Nope. The mid FOs? Nope. The top senior FOs who had the upgrade denied for years. Bingo.

 

[bubbers44]

So over half the voters will be captains within the next two years and voted accordingly. Isn't that how it normally works. Remember, that is where you will be next.

 

[Raoul Duke]

when is the vote over?

 

[bubbers44]

Later this week.

 

[bubbers44]

July 23rd according to my former post, talking to one of the MEC reps. It should start a trend hopefully to get everybody getting on track again. With our present white house administration who knows what the future holds. Change, I guess.

 

[ultrarunner]

July 23rd....With our present white house administration who knows what the future holds..

Any wealth you gain in this TA being redistributed, that's what the future holds!

 

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Any wealth you gain in this TA being redistributed, that's what the future holds!

you must be talking about the national political picture. On the Spirit homefront, the inequity remains. We gave all of the gains to the senior Captains, to a narrow group of FO's (to buy their votes) and kept the humongous disparity in the training dept.

Can you believe this? Our Checkairman over ride is more per hour than a first year FO makes for the same hour. First year FO $36. Fifteenth year Captain $175 plus $37.50 override for grand total of $212.50 per hour. And get this, the CA has a higher daily guarantee than a line guy.

Yes, favoritism is alive and well in the Spirit TA.

At least we took care of those greedy FO's who try to fly enough OT to pay for their kids orthodontics.

 

[WayBack]

Feel the ALPO love!
What was the saying Prater coined while working to Spirit pilots to vote in ALPA? "Taking it back"??
I think he meant "take it in the rear".

 

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Feel the ALPO love!
What was the saying Prater coined while working to Spirit pilots to vote in ALPA? "Taking it back"??
I think he meant "take it in the rear".

Spirit was ALPA for ten years before Pratter got elected. Don't blame this on Pratter.

Blame this on a pilot group that elected leaders for the wrong reasons and on leaders who negotiated a contract that: protects the elite and punishes a certain group for being "selfish". "Selfish" being of course a subjective judgment; it is selfish for a junior FO to want to make more than $40K a year, but it is NOT selfish for a senior Capt Checkairman to make more than $200K.

Sounds fair to me:smash:

 

[boomlrd]

Vote No!

 

[bubbers44]

My info is Spirit counts their votes tomorrow. I guess 65%for. What do you think?

 

[PCL_128]

My info is Spirit counts their votes tomorrow. I guess 65%for. What do you think?

I say 70% in favor.

 

[bubbers44]

That would be a landslide in an election vote. Bet you are right.

 

[bubbers44]

HC, Who cares what you make the first year. Nobody in my poverty 750 per month group cared. The next year we were making good pay and loving it. We all retired and are living a good life. We ended up at about what the Spirit guys will make at the end of their contract and that was almost 10 years ago. Think into the future. An Intern doesn't make his bucks until he is the Doctor. That is the way it has always worked.