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Gorilla said:
Uh, is Al-Zarquaui (sp?) a terrorist? Gee I dunno. Cutting off Berg's head with a dull kitchen knife, screaming Allahu-akbar, posting a video, and later declaring it was like butchering a sheep...

Oh yeah, he must be a freedom fighter.

There's no question that he's a terrorist. Blowing him up with an aerial attack does not fighting terrorists on Iraqi soil make....especially in the context of why we're there. Hint. Even though our illustrious president would like you to believe it, the answer has nothing to do with terrorism. Your opportunistic attempt based on the latest news failed. It's funny that no one could provide any straight answer prior to now.
 
I know if I thought my president lied and sent soldiers to their death for his personal gain I would be arming myself and going to Washington for a coup de ta.

Why havent you?

Ken
 
waka said:
There's no question that he's a terrorist. Blowing him up with an aerial attack does not fighting terrorists on Iraqi soil make....especially in the context of why we're there. Hint. Even though our illustrious president would like you to believe it, the answer has nothing to do with terrorism. Your opportunistic attempt based on the latest news failed. It's funny that no one could provide any straight answer prior to now.

So you ask if we have fought any terrorists over there...and then proof is offered...but for some reason that does not count?
 
waka said:
There's no question that he's a terrorist. Blowing him up with an aerial attack does not fighting terrorists on Iraqi soil make....especially in the context of why we're there. Hint. Even though our illustrious president would like you to believe it, the answer has nothing to do with terrorism. Your opportunistic attempt based on the latest news failed. It's funny that no one could provide any straight answer prior to now.

Waka, you're a smart guy. Are you really maintaining that since it was an aerial attack, it "doesn't count" as combat on "iraqi soil?"

Before you answer, please consider the enormous number of ground-based assets in Iraq that were absolutely essential for the success of this mission. Please be intellectually honest.

Al-Z was a terrorist. He died on Iraqi soil with the combined effort of ground and airborne soldiers and pilots. There is only one conclusion.
 
waka said:
Do SW pilots have to wear the flag tie? It seems like that's all I see lately.

No, they do not "have" to wear it. But they can wear 'approved' flag ties if they want. I think the company allows a selection of three or four different flag patterns.
 
Gorilla said:
Waka, you're a smart guy. Are you really maintaining that since it was an aerial attack, it "doesn't count" as combat on "iraqi soil?"

Before you answer, please consider the enormous number of ground-based assets in Iraq that were absolutely essential for the success of this mission. Please be intellectually honest.

Al-Z was a terrorist. He died on Iraqi soil with the combined effort of ground and airborne soldiers and pilots. There is only one conclusion.

Gorilla,

I should have been more direct. My original statement was based on the post below.

gator_hater said:
Bottom line every life is valuable and I'd rather fight the terrorists in Iraq than on my soil, not to mention depose a ruthless dictator in the process.

Bush tried to justify invading Iraq partly by connecting Iraq with Al Qaeda and 9-11. No connection was ever found. Zarqawi and the group he led, Tawhid wal Jihad, was well after the fact and was formed in response to our invasion. Yes, terrorists were/are being fought on Iraqi soil but, not in the context of preventing another 9-11. Many ilinformed folks lump this all together. Remember that terrorism's definition has much to do with military vs civilian targets. I just wanted to emphasize that the insurgent attacks on our troops, as awful as it is that our troops are being injured and killed, is not terrorism. Many folks are quick to refer to those as terrorist attacks. However, I do of course acknowledge the beheadings of British and American journalists, the cafe bombings targeting civilians etc. as terrorism. It does seem that most of the attacks are centered on coalition troops and Iraqi police (working closely enough with the military to be considered a military target, me thinks).

Yes, I'm back pedalling a bit because my posts were vague. I digress.
 
waka said:
I only think that it would be an issue if this tie was mandatory.

It is not mandatory to wear the American Flag ties at SWA; however, it would be great if they made it mandatory. That way, all pilots would have to wear them.
 
MalteseX said:
It is not mandatory to wear the American Flag ties at SWA; however, it would be great if they made it mandatory. That way, all pilots would have to wear them.

Making any presentation of patriotism as mandatory is against the very principles for which our flag stands. Hail Caesar!
 
VSI9k+ said:
So you ask if we have fought any terrorists over there...and then proof is offered...but for some reason that does not count?

You're looking for logic from a liberal. Don't waste your time. You'll never find any.
 

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