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What is really belittling to their sacrifices is that the White House has been sugarcoating the consequences of this war since day 1. You sir/maam buying into the PG coverage is belittling to their sacrifices.Benhuntn said:I wouldn't have even entered this post if you didn't have that most distasteful display of the numbers of dead men and women who have given their lives in defense of this country. It does nothing to honor them. It puts me off that their are people that value their freedom so little that they belittle the sacrifice of so many.
"No one died when Clinton Lied" refers to the fact that we entered this war on one lie after another and this irresponisble administration's royal blunder has a direct effect on the casualties. Yes, I suppose you can debunk the phrase if you take it out of context and argue that x number of people died in car accidents, murders, attacks on embassies and Navy warships. However, it is nonsense to blame the attack on the Cole on Clinton.Benhuntn said:Especially by trying to claim that for some reason you think no one died when Clinton lied. I can think of many, they lived in Embassies in Kenya and Tanzania. Along with a boat crew called the Cole. Also the people of the Sudan that were bombed and in the tents that were bombed in Afganisan.
Yes, as a matter of fact it is tough. After all, we are at warBenhuntn said:It must be tough getting up everyday knowing that there is nothing but doom and gloom to face with Bush, Cheney, and Connie in the White House.
Thank you for granting me that privilege oh generous one. Frankly, I couldn't care less whether or not you have granted me "the last word". Must you rely on these lame word power tactics? Actually, it makes sense that you do as I might resort to these tactics if my arguments were as specious as yours.Benhuntn said:You can have the last word if you so chose.
waka said:My patriotism is expressed in scrutiny, skepticism and not toeing the line, as it should be.
waka said:"Will somebody gove Bush a blowjob so we can impeach him?!?!"
BIll Maher
Wouldn't a tie with a map of the US would be more helpful, since they could use it in case they got lost?SDF2BUF2MCO said:Once again, SWA ties are cool.
That Grand Jury had no business asking about the blowjob in the first place. The politically expedient impeachment wasn't warranted based on that alone. What a big circus. Clinton's only mistake with the Lewinski investigation scandal was not telling everyone that it was none of their d@mn business.Dangerkitty said:Clinton's Impeachment had nothing to do with a "blowjob". It was the fact that Clinton committed perjury to a Federal Grand Jury that warranted his impeachment.
waka said:That Grand Jury had no business asking about the blowjob in the first place. The politically expedient impeachment wasn't warranted based on that alone. What a big circus. Clinton's only mistake with the Lewinski investigation scandal was not telling everyone that it was none of their d@mn business.
waka said:<snip> Clinton's only mistake with the Lewinski investigation scandal was not telling everyone that it was none of their d@mn business.
Pantherjon said:But I guess we will never know, til we actually define what is is..
Pantherjon said:Well, I disagree on this..He(Clinton) could have used that line if the incident happened in a more discreet location..Like a hotel room,etc..Not in the bloody oval office!..We(not me, but the majority of the US voters) hired him as our CEO, so to speak. And these kind of actions by our CEO in the board room is too our d@mn business..
But what I loved about the whole incident was him trying to say he didnt have a 'sexual' encounter with her..EXXXCCCUUUUSSSSEEE me but whats the second word in ORAL SEX!?!?!?!!?!?!?!?!
But I guess we will never know, til we actually define what is is..
WabiSabi said:Nevertheless, BJ's in the Oval Office aren't illegal. C'mon, there has to be far more unethical dealings (deals, corruption, decisions to attack etc.) happening in the Oval Office than a friggin' BJ. He got a hummer, so what?
waka said:There's no question that he's a terrorist. Blowing him up with an aerial attack does not fighting terrorists on Iraqi soil make....especially in the context of why we're there. Hint. Even though our illustrious president would like you to believe it, the answer has nothing to do with terrorism. Your opportunistic attempt based on the latest news failed. It's funny that no one could provide any straight answer prior to now.
scoreboard said:No one died when Clinton lied?
BS buddy, or have you forgotten?
USS Cole
Kobar Towers
Somalia
Riyadh USMTM
Nirobi
etc, etc, etc
Getting blow jobs, arguing what is is, and letting Americans die without an appropriate response, does not a leader make.
waka said:"No one died when Clinton Lied" refers to the fact that we entered this war on one lie after another and this irresponisble administration's royal blunder has a direct effect on the casualties. Yes, I suppose you can debunk the phrase if you take it out of context and argue that x number of people died in car accidents, murders, attacks on embassies and Navy warships. However, it is nonsense to blame the attack on the Cole on Clinton.
con-pilot said:Ah well waka , the sign of a true liberal. Quoting yourself to make a point.
Kind of like using the "Bible" to defend the "Bible".
Oh, by the way, you were wrong then as now.
But carry on, never let the truth get in your way.
Oh, excuse me, my new sign off.
Clinton lied, OBL lived, 9/11 followed.
Clinton had 8 YEARS, Bush had 8 months.
WHO SCREWED UP?
Sniper Bob said:Does it bother you that a group of individuals choose to wear attire that reflects their love and support of their country?