Southwest Goes Off Road'n In Chicago

[lowtimedriver]

...and reopen El Toro Air Station.

3/21 3,900' Asphalt
7L/25R 8,000' Asphalt
7R/25L 8,000' Asphalt
16L/34R 10,000' Concrete
16R/34L 10,000' Concrete


A recreational area?! A filming location?! While 200K# planes land and takeoff on a 5000' runway.

Geez!

They have already chopped up several of the shorter runways at El Toro.

 

[Scope out RJ's]

Maybe for these reasons..

1- Best safety record in the industry, bar none.
2- Great customer service to the majority of px in the nation.
3- Great QOL and wages for every single employee.
4- 40yrs of profitiblity.
5- No RJ feed.

I through that last one in there just for you Scope!

6- paid for your job because you couldn't interview anywhere else
7- 6 legs a day makes you way underpaid compared to me ( ( didn't have to buy my job)
8- convertibles are now optional?
9- can't seem to land on runways and keep it there.

I threw that last one in there for you redflyer since you guys seem to go through the end of runways!

 

[Scope out RJ's]

Guys- I've said it before- hating is a compliment. The biggest compliment. The difference is that I can say that Delta's a good place to work- trading International flying for a company that would like to ******************** you - but THEY can't say that swa is a great place to work. So wrapped in an antagonistic-> apathetic labor-> mgmt relationship they can't conceive it being any other way and ultimately resent any airline that isn't fighting that battle. It's irrational at best- They should all be pointing at swa and using us as an example of how they'd like to be treated and paid- but they don't.

Maybe because I don't want to pay for my job.
Maybe because I don't want to fly 6 legs a day.
Maybe because we weren't the catalysts for age 65
Maybe because when you were flying your rj, southwest was the lowest paid airline out there.
Maybe if you had half a clue you'd be believable.

They find every strange excuse to bash. It's pathetic.
So hate on, brethren. I'll keep laughing at you knowing exactly what all that hating is...

More like laughing than hating. But keep working those abs, you can tell all the guys at the gym how you paid dearly for that job you so covet, and are still flying 6 legs a day to the same city pairs.:laugh:

 

[B727Driver]

Wow Scope, looks like a month off wasn’t enough. Still have a Medical with all that anger bottled up? Blood pressure must be off the charts. Enjoy Delta and the SW folks will be fine with the AT group joining them. Good to have you back.

 

[luckytohaveajob]

High G turnoffs?

It appears Tankerhead has no understanding of turning forces applied to vehicles on the ground.

Lateral G's. Get a clue.

I think the NTSB will be able to apply the flight data recorders info to determine the accident aircrafts skidpad.

Another important number would be to know what a typical SWA aircraft experiences on a day to day basis and the stress such activity applies to the upper skins.

Skidpad
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

A skidpad or skidpan is a large, circular area of flat pavement (architecture) used for various tests of a car's handling. The most common skidpad use is testing lateral acceleration, measured in g.
The test is carried out on a circular track with a calculated radius. A car driving on said track is slowly accelerated until the outermost tires on the car begin to slip. Going any faster would cause the car to drive outside the 300 ft radius. At this point, the speed of the car is recorded, and given the centripetal acceleration formula, v²/r, a car's handling in terms of lateral gs can be derived.

 

[Muppets]

To all my SWA brothers and sisters,

Welcome to our world....the double breasted dorks have been hating on us for a long time. They get nervous whenever competition creeps in. Just throw them the bird and keep on truckin.

Regards,
AirTran

 

[densoo]

They have already chopped up several of the shorter runways at El Toro.

Oh, the humanity.

 

[redflyer65]

Hey Scope,

A couple of items..

I didn't pay for my job what-so-ever. So your way off base. Plus our trip for pay system is extremely lucrative. Depending on what type of trip you're flying the converstion can be quite high, but you know what.. you probably don't want to hear that! It's easy to credit whatever you want.

Southwest Airlines - RJ free since 1972!

 

[NEDude]

Scope is apparently forgetting that many people got their job at Southwest without ever paying for a type rating. Many got it from previous airlines.

 

[Rough67]

To all my SWA brothers and sisters,

Welcome to our world....the double breasted dorks have been hating on us for a long time. They get nervous whenever competition creeps in. Just throw them the bird and keep on truckin.

Regards,
AirTran

That is quite a generalization. I wear the uniform because it's required, whether I like it or not. I don't hate on anyone, and I hope you don't think the .02 %ers in here represent us. If you flip me the bird it's ok.. I'll just assume you are having a bad day and missed your commute or something.

 

[Tripower455]

Scope is apparently forgetting that many people got their job at Southwest without ever paying for a type rating. Many got it from previous airlines.

Not to mention that not one person paid one penny to SW to get the job......

 

[redflyer65]

That is quite a generalization. I wear the uniform because it's required, whether I like it or not. I don't hate on anyone, and I hope you don't think the .02 %ers in here represent us. If you flip me the bird it's ok.. I'll just assume you are having a bad day and missed your commute or something.

Well stated brother! Appreciate some kind words for once.

 

[SWA/FO]

Delta chumps had to pay for their room/board while in training "until they pass the checkride".... nice.

Like I said before, the only cool thing about Delta is the NWA guys.

 

[rajflyboy]

I'm a Cowboy Baby

 

[Whataburger]

Good points...and very funny....except...Delta doesn't land on taxiways repetitively. However, runway overuns, for SWA, what is this, the third?

There is an operational pattern here that is becoming a problem for SWA. It is evident also from the high speed taxi rates many of us witness each day. Hey, maybe the incentive being dangled is worth bending the airframe, but it seems counter culture to what is bragged about.

T8

I know it's semantics, but I believe taxiing and landing are two different animals.

Please state 2 instances in which we made the news while taxiing. Thanks!!