Southwest changing it's "stance" in ATL. HMMMMMM

[BILL LUMBERG]

Wow, 7% of the FL pilots have filed suit. Does that carry a lot of weight with you?

Almost twice the number of pilots voted against this horrible deal. Why aren't there 1400 pilots a part of that suit?

Good point.

This lawsuit has a snowballs chance in hell. The USAPA page of this book has coffee stains and is a little ripped and torn. The only winners will be the lawyers.

 

[canyonblue]

blah blah blah....

Bye Bye---General Lee

Step away from the keyboard and go wax your car, your Prom date has expectations. Then again, she said yes to you so maybe she doesn't. :laugh:

 

[Dash Power]

Everyone must rememember......

General Lee does not exist. One was the leader of the losing side of the Civil War, one was a made up name for a car in a campy TV show, and the other plays a neurotic pilot for Delta Airlines on an anonymous forum.

You are arguing with a Phantom. It (GL) simply does not exist.

 

[General Lee]

Everyone must rememember......

General Lee does not exist. One was the leader of the losing side of the Civil War, one was a made up name for a car in a campy TV show, and the other plays a neurotic pilot for Delta Airlines on an anonymous forum.

You are arguing with a Phantom. It (GL) simply does not exist.

Dash,

Sometimes I stir the pot, and some people can't handle it. Many need to Chillax and just give an opinion or reply to one. No biggie.


Bye Bye---General Lee

 

[HowardBorden]

You can say all of our flights should be done with mainline, but your airline does do some INTL flights with Volaris. (not as many as DL does with SkyTeam etc, but some none the less) So, not all of your flights are done with your crews, so you do the same thing, at a smaller scale.

WRONG! At least attempt to get the facts straight when you spout off.

Southwest Pilots Praise End of SkyWest Codeshare Agreement

The termination of the SkyWest codeshare agreement with AirTran allows both SWAPA and Southwest Airlines to concentrate and devote their collective energies on the tasks at hand. In late 2009, the Southwest Airlines Pilots' Association ratified its contract with Southwest Airlines that strictly prohibits domestic codeshare and greatly restricts codeshare to near-international destinations. This section of the contract is foundational to the protection of pilots' jobs and careers.

http://www.travelpulse.com/southwest-pilots-praise-end-of-skywest-codeshare-agreement.html

Southwest and Volaris to end partnership

Southwest Airlines and Volaris will end their connecting partnership. Dallas-based Southwest says that the carrier?s mutually agreed to end the relationship.

http://www.aviationbrief.com/?p=11508

 

[StopNTSing]

Then why the hell buy AirTran. What an epic failure. AirTran's biggest strength was its ATL fortress, that competed well with Delta. SWA comes in swoops up AirTran with 717s and 737s. It's pretty obvious that SWA was not going to operate the 717 (or anything other than a 737) so that was a waste. Result? All leased out to Delta. Goodbye jobs. Next, the AirTran ATL hub. Result? Reduced now to just a SWA focus city. Goodbye more jobs and ATL hub status. So the net result of this merger was a handful of AirTran 737s and slots at various airports through the country.

Ah, pilots....we've got all the answers.

Other than eliminating a competitor, gaining big access to the ATL through the only practical means left, and a jumpstart for international ops, you're right: we're getting absolutely nothing out of this deal. I didn't want it as much or more than the next pilot, but it is what it is now, and it's not nothing. The synergies are beginning to be realized. The final SWA presence in ATL was NEVER proposed to be anything like the former ATN operation. SWA does not do hubs and consequently does not need to staff for them (IOW, paying people to do a few banks throughout the day and then sit on their duff's in between), so it is unfortunate that the SWA efficiencies bring a reduction in jobs. Also worth noting, however, that not a single employee will be eliminated....they will all be offered other positions, probably at other stations. Still better than a pink slip.

I agree that it was no secret Gary didn't like 717's either. Happily he now actually has an interested taker for an orphaned airframe with very unreliable engines (thanks General!), so he doesn't have to eat the high costs of having a second narrow-body type in his very homogenous fleet until the 717 leases were up. Now that it is all but a done deal that SWA will be obtaining used 737NG's from the world market to make up the fleet deficit, it looks like a win-win for SWA & Delta, and there should be no pilot furloughs.

What a stupid non-beneficial merger (if you can even call it a merger).

No, you can't call it a merger....it's an acquisition.

 

[Flyer1015]

It was supposed to be a merger.

 

[humveedriver]

It's actually an assimilation, where a few remnants of AT's practices and procedures will still be visible.

 

[canyonblue]

It was supposed to be a merger.

If you believe that the British and Americans merged with the Indians, sure, call it what you want. Hell, we'll even let you have a casino in Atlanta.

 

[Luv2BFlyin]

Hell, we'll even let you have a casino in Atlanta.

I bet you would. If the odds are anything like the lottery we won that you operate, the house would never lose. No thanks.