Southwest breaks ground

[scoreboardII]

Wait, I thought you had 100's of FAT aps on file, everybody wants to work for WN, you know how AT would answer.

All kidding aside, while being anecdotal, flying the line as a captain during the talks about both ATA and Midwest Airlines, I personally didn't hear any of our pilots (especially f/o's) speaking of staple, let alone, take their airplanes and run. I personally would have had no problem with either DOH or relative with either group. If we wouldn't have been able to come to agreeable terms, I'd have abided by an arbiter's terms (that's for you PCL ).

Good point, but it ended up being an overall relative SL for SWA pilots (ending career where you started percentage wise), so to try and move that list up for AT pilots, would have harmed SWA pilots, which was a non starter. In essence, SWA pilots "took" not one shred of seniority more than "break even", of course I see how AT feel that's "breaking Bad".

 

[scoreboardII]

Bubba: You're a good dude. You're not right and you're spoiled rotten by the SWA gravy train, but you're a good dude. Let's put this argument about how the world works on hold until you take the corndog out into it, ok? Other countries are not like Texas my friend.

Holy mother of......, hope we can manage....

 

[dicko]

Strawman argument, turn the tables, how would AT answer?

Negotiation followed by arbitration, if the negotiated offer wasn't fair in our opinion.

Strawman argument ? Option (1) was the plan before the perceived threat by SWA management to AirTran pilot jobs. Option (2) is exactly how SWA played ATA, and if legal, would have been wildly supported by a large percentage of SWA pilots. 'Red' only wanted a staple of our entire pilot group. Of course, he's a moderate with no ill will.

What were the Morris pilots offered after they started to get uppity ?

 

[dicko]

I was a SWA Captain a few days ago with a "Flattish won't Fly" bag tag, which was cool. He was wearing a hat, which was confusing. He was also wearing large ironic hipster glasses, which looked weird, with the hat.

Strange days are these.

 

[HowardBorden]

Good point, but it ended up being an overall relative SL for SWA pilots (ending career where you started percentage wise)

I ended up less than one half of one percent different at retirement with the acquisition as opposed to without it, which is all I ever thought I was entitled to. Some may argue I wasn't entitled to that but I will respectfully disagree.

 

[redflyer65]

Negotiation followed by arbitration, if the negotiated offer wasn't fair in our opinion.

Strawman argument ? Option (1) was the plan before the perceived threat by SWA management to AirTran pilot jobs. Option (2) is exactly how SWA played ATA, and if legal, would have been wildly supported by a large percentage of SWA pilots. 'Red' only wanted a staple of our entire pilot group. Of course, he's a moderate with no ill will.

What were the Morris pilots offered after they started to get uppity ?

I never realistically thought we'd be able to staple everyone Dicko, but thanks for putting words in my mouth. I think the list should have turned out similar to what we have now, with the one exception that the AirTran captains hold captain if their seniority held it.

Howard,

I don't upgrade one day earlier with this deal. Not one day, so I'm right there with you.

 

[scoreboardII]

Negotiation followed by arbitration, if the negotiated offer wasn't fair in our opinion.

Strawman argument ? Option (1) was the plan before the perceived threat by SWA management to AirTran pilot jobs. Option (2) is exactly how SWA played ATA, and if legal, would have been wildly supported by a large percentage of SWA pilots. 'Red' only wanted a staple of our entire pilot group. Of course, he's a moderate with no ill will.

What were the Morris pilots offered after they started to get uppity ?

I call BS, if AT pilots ruled the dealing, and had only those two options, it would go 99 percent choice 2. It's called human nature.

What resulted was negotiations.

That's why your supposition is a strawman.

 

[humveedriver]

I saw her today at the reception...

 

[scoreboardII]

The strawman?

 

[SWA Bubba]

I saw her today at the reception...

Was there..... a glass of wine in her hand?

Bubba