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pilotbrain
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gear_yanker
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You have to sign a $24,000 training bond before you start training.
You get no deadhead/positioning pay in your first year. A sure guarantee that you will be used and abused.
If you get fired "for cause", you owe the $24,000. Guess who gets to decide if it's for cause........wait for it.......yes, Southern Air. Oh, and the discipline/discharge section of the contract doesn't apply to probationary crewmembers.
If Southern Air furloughs you, you accept a new job with a real airline and Southern recalls you six months later...................you owe the $24,000 should you decide not to return.
Southern used to be a good job if you were unemployed. Now it's a good job only if you are UNEMPLOYABLE.
You have to sign a $24,000 training bond before you start training.
You get no deadhead/positioning pay in your first year. A sure guarantee that you will be used and abused.
If you get fired "for cause", you owe the $24,000. Guess who gets to decide if it's for cause........wait for it.......yes, Southern Air. Oh, and the discipline/discharge section of the contract doesn't apply to probationary crewmembers.
If Southern Air furloughs you, you accept a new job with a real airline and Southern recalls you six months later...................you owe the $24,000 should you decide not to return.
Southern used to be a good job if you were unemployed. Now it's a good job only if you are UNEMPLOYABLE.
A LOT is changing right now, to be honest, if you wait a little bit you will probably get better information than relying on whatever anyone tells you right now.
Best I can say is that it looks like things are moving in a positive direction. When the info is made public, then I promise to post it on here.
Best I can say is that it looks like things are moving in a positive direction. When the info is made public, then I promise to post it on here.
Southern Air is what you make of it. It depends on where you are coming from. If you want to build time and see new places it is not so bad. I have not been used and abused. I am going to upgrade next month which is only one year. Not to bad. Training bond sucks for sure. Not a good deal unless you have no other options. Things are in limbo right now with the merger. No hard details right now. Should be coming soon. There is no reserve time though. You will get a line right after OE. It might not be a good one, but it is flying. I think tht it is going to get better here. I have been wrong before though. Good luck what ever you decide.
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I've seen a lot of your planes and I have always wondered about where you fly etc. Can you give me an example of a line for a month--where you would go etc? Give me a typical line or something you have done recently. Thanks a lot.
Bye Bye--General Lee
Did somebody at Southern pee in your cornflakes...? 
Been there over two years, had only one return to the gate.
Not calling Southern a Shangri-la, but it's not as bad as you enjoy making it sound.
It's non-sched international freight operation running under supplemental rules... WTF do you expect it to be like...?
Most of your complaints about Southern sound as out of place, as would a corporate pilot complaining about having to be "on call"...
It's the nature of the job. Southern + cargo flying in general is not for everyone, but it suits some people just fine.
Now that we have established that you really don't like this company, can we stick to writing information that is useful (to those who might prefer it over sitting in some crash pad or are stuck flying a barbie jet)...?
Thanks
Been there over two years, had only one return to the gate.
Not calling Southern a Shangri-la, but it's not as bad as you enjoy making it sound.
It's non-sched international freight operation running under supplemental rules... WTF do you expect it to be like...?
Most of your complaints about Southern sound as out of place, as would a corporate pilot complaining about having to be "on call"...
It's the nature of the job. Southern + cargo flying in general is not for everyone, but it suits some people just fine.
Now that we have established that you really don't like this company, can we stick to writing information that is useful (to those who might prefer it over sitting in some crash pad or are stuck flying a barbie jet)...?
Thanks
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Well said.
Did somebody at Southern pee in your cornflakes...?
Been there over two years, had only one return to the gate.
Not calling Southern a Shangri-la, but it's not as bad as you enjoy making it sound.
It's non-sched international freight operation running under supplemental rules... WTF do you expect it to be like...?
Most of your complaints about Southern sound as out of place, as would a corporate pilot complaining about having to be "on call"...
It's the nature of the job. Southern + cargo flying in general is not for everyone, but it suits some people just fine.
Now that we have established that you really don't like this company, can we stick to writing information that is useful (to those who might prefer it over sitting in some crash pad or are stuck flying a barbie jet)...?
Thanks
dutch747
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Hey, really sorry guys! Didn't realize someone would be so personally offended!
New rule, never post on a BB after drinking two scotches.
Anyway, it was meant to be humorous. Not a stab at SAI. Have a lot of friends who work there. Thats where my info comes from.
But I have to ask dakotaHC8, looking at some of your previous post, are you a chick? Or do you just act like one?
New rule, never post on a BB after drinking two scotches.
Anyway, it was meant to be humorous. Not a stab at SAI. Have a lot of friends who work there. Thats where my info comes from.
But I have to ask dakotaHC8, looking at some of your previous post, are you a chick? Or do you just act like one?
gear_yanker
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Sorry, but I really disagree with some of what has been said here. Most of the guys who say Southern is an okay "non-sked" operation were hired long before the training bond was introduced. If you are desparate to get away from the crash pad or the barbie jet and fly the jumbo, THERE ARE MANY BETTER PLACES TO GO THESE DAYS......WITHOUT BECOMING AN INDENTURED SERVANT!!
I think Kalitta, with their new contract, is a much better place than Southern. Really, any place without the bond is a better career move.
I think Kalitta, with their new contract, is a much better place than Southern. Really, any place without the bond is a better career move.
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