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At ALPA they definitely change. Lots of swings. Ours has stayed pretty well in line with inflation. It just looks like a lot bc no other carrier, or all tue middle class, has been able to keep up.
So once again...."you're just mad cause we tell it like it is, and you tell it how it might be."
I know frank white might not be your style, but you earn the line almost every post.
[/COLOR]Stifler's Mom;2191103[COLOR=blue said:]He wants it rejected in hopes of keeping SWA out of DAL's backyard. He's only concerned with himself, and not the AirTran pilot group. Don't be fooled by him.
Delta Contract almost up but it is going to be a fight to get more money.Contract is almost up, but you prefer to think current wages will always stick around.
Delta Contract almost up but it is going to be a fight to get more money.
According to Delta 10-Q filed last week, Delta had $3.8 billion cash and short term investments and over $13 billion in long term debt (over 3 times as much debt as cash). Delta's operating profit for the first 6 months of 2011 ($389 million) wasn't even enough to pay the interest bill for the first 6 months of 2011 (a below the operating line expense of $454 million). Those numbers don't point to a great contract coming anytime soon.
For comparison, SWA made a $321 million operating profit for the first 6 months of 2011 and paid only $94 million in interests payments. SWA is the only airline out of the big 5 that has more cash and short term investment ($4.4 billion) than long term debt ($3.2)
Hard to argue with the arithmetic but I am sure someone will.
Chief executive officer Gary Kelly said yesterday that "we don't see a reason to keep the 717s longer than we have to, or find a unique replacement for the 717 that is anything other than the 737".
http://www.flightglobal.com/articles/2011/08/05/360443/southwest-appears-less-bullish-on-717.html
Bad timing on all those disclosures. Has all the pilots thinking much harder about being at the bottom of the list...
Aren't there enough combined (SW and AAI) orders to easily replace the 717 on a scheduled basis?
RF
Aren't there enough combined (SW and AAI) orders to easily replace the 717 on a scheduled basis?
RF
AAI relative seniority was worth $ZZZ.ZZ
SWAPA relative seniority is worth 1.A X $ZZZ.ZZ
Where "A" equals the difference in contract value.
For an FO the difference was probably about 9 and a CA about 5.
Seniority at AAI was worth less and that is why you are giving up "seniority".
Can't have it all ladies.
What's he on record as saying- he wants us to be proud of how we handled this acquisition and how we treated each other during it. .
Heard it said really well today- if you guys want to treat GK with all the suspicion of just any standard airline exec, at some point he might just cut his losses and treat you like any old airline employee.
What's he on record as saying- he wants us to be proud of how we handled this acquisition and how we treated each other during it.
He can't tell us everything- but I'm learning he says what he means.
Besides- how does voting no help out the 717 situation.
IF the Airtran MEC votes NO, then they can get some better language protecting everyone, including any 717 pilots.
Bye Bye---General Lee
Exactly how would that play out General? Gary holds the key to better language, not SWAPA, not ALPA, and especially not the arbitor.
RF