Sleepy NWA pilots?

[Crizz]

http://kstp.com/news/stories/S1205029.shtml?cat=1

 

[PeanuckleCRJ]

I don't think there's going to be any sort of weird outside circumstances with this one. Have a field day, boys. 15 pages at least.

"Don't let me wake up and catch you sleeping" comes to mind...

 

[ACL65PILOT]

Oh boy. I agree, 15 pages of DAL basing please. Oh and yeah, can I have a side of fries with that?

 

[labatt]

http://flightaware.com/live/flight/NWA188

Looks like they took the track down. Smart on ALPA's part on whoever. According to flightaware they overflew MSP on roughly a 080 heading. Went past EAU and made the turn around Chippewa Falls, WI (home of Leinenkugels brewery).

They made a wide turn that brought them in north of the cities and had a long downwind to land 35. We certainly don't know all the details and I wish all the best to the crew. Could have happened to any of us.

 

[crxpilot]

But did they land on the taxiway?

 

[crj567]

But did they land on the taxiway?

DAAANNG!

-Cold, dog.

 

[Scope out RJ's]

Oh boy. I agree, 15 pages of DAL basing please. Oh and yeah, can I have a side of fries with that?

There he is, in the post above this one. Just ask fry boy (crj567)

 

[labatt]

Dupicate post. Original poster had video in his post.

 

[mesaba13]

The flight track is still available, you just have to select Oct 21. Does the Airbus just track existing heading when it reaches the last fix on an arrival? It looks like they hit MONKY and then just continued on that track?

 

[RedRum]

Here's a few things to consider before ripping into these guys.

1) What was their alternate? - Looks sort of like a turn at Twinz intersection. Maybe they had an alternate of GRB, MSN, LSE?

2) Runway change as they got close to the airport? We are still down one parallel runway in MSP. When they change the airport plan, things get backed up as you know.

3) Maybe the Center controller was "on the landline?" LOL

4) Maybe they fell asleep. I hope that is not the case. Because at this point it would be a hater field day on here. Especially since none of those haters has ever walked the dog during any of their long duty days.

Everything is conjecture until the facts come out. A look at the big picture, which the media hates to do, would be in order here before the Monday morning quarterbacking starts.

 

[densoo]

Fatigue? If so, 2009 may be the year the FAA turns the corner on the fatigue issue and gets some rulemaking that makes sense. Lots of incidents and one big accident this year due to fatigue.

 

[PA31Driver]

Here's a few things to consider before ripping into these guys.

4) Maybe they fell asleep. I hope that is not the case. Because at this point it would be a hater field day on here. Especially since none of those haters has ever walked the dog during any of their long duty days.

Everything is conjecture until the facts come out. A look at the big picture, which the media hates to do, would be in order here before the Monday morning quarterbacking starts.

Would you have had the same opinion if it was a Mesa flight?

 

[regionalcap]

http://flightaware.com/live/flight/NWA188/history/20091021/2135Z/KSAN/KMSP

 

[ACL65PILOT]

Would you have had the same opinion if it was a Mesa flight?

I flew at a regional as well. Fatigue is fatigue. It does not discriminate!

 

[nwaredtail]

Would you have had the same opinion if it was a Mesa flight?

Yes, Mesa sucks! Now, get your plywood and go away

 

[Green Banana]

Looking at the track data, FL370 over Wisconsin. 3,000 FPM right 270 deg turn to head back. Looks like a chop and drop 100nm past the airport.

 

[StopNTSing]

Seems awfully gutsy for the company to so quickly blame it on weather. Hope they can back that claim up when the 'rest of the story' eventually comes out.

 

[Crizz]

Seems awfully gutsy for the company to so quickly blame it on weather. Hope they can back that claim up when the 'rest of the story' eventually comes out.

I think they reported that based on the Flight/Gate status on NWA.com. NWA.com was reporting the delay based on a late departure from SAN, probably due to an EDCT from traffic congestion in MSP.

 

[Crizz]

http://wcco.com/travel/flight.overshoots.airport.2.1265004.html


Didnt see this one coming.

 

[PeanuckleCRJ]

http://ntsb.gov/Pressrel/2009/091022.html

Here's the NTSB release. Weird.