SkyWest to open a CRJ PDX and SEA base in July

[Baronman]

There's no group I'd rather be whipsawed against than Skywest! It's like they enjoy being Dr Evil's pet cat.

 

[SSDD]

Ah I worked at a regional from 2000-2006. I had each of these 'perks' (plus many other CONTRACTUAL work rules) the entire time. So what are these perks you speak of then? BTW great that you think of work rules as 'perks'. That way if they go away you can just say well it was just a 'perk' anyways.

So if these are such basic work rules, then why are there SEVERAL union regionals that don't have them as part of their great contracts?

Just asking...

 

[FishandFly]

Well said baronman.

I always imagine a whiny 14 year old kid who's epaulettes are on upside down yelling/singing "I don't pay 2 percent, I don't pay 2 percent"

 

[FishandFly]

Ah I worked at a regional from 2000-2006. I had each of these 'perks' (plus many other CONTRACTUAL work rules) the entire time. So what are these perks you speak of then? BTW great that you think of work rules as 'perks'. That way if they go away you can just say well it was just a 'perk' anyways.

So if these are such basic work rules, then why are there SEVERAL union regionals that don't have them as part of their great contracts?

Just asking...

Because their companies suck. You work for a good company with good leadership. That means that they can afford to deal with a well represented group.

Just because they give you a little loving every time their other airlines force some loving doesn't make you smarter, it just makes you a parasite.
(not in a disrespectful way, but in the free-loader kind of way)

Rather than look at the bad airlines that have bad work rules, why don't skywest pilots look at all the good companies employee groups that are represented and realize that Unlcle Jerry won't take you out of the will just because you stand up for yourselves?

 

[damnflyboy]

And PER the TPA pilots go to SKYW. Any more questions.

Is this in reference to ASA's two waves of furloughs versus SkyWest's zero furloughs a couple of years ago?

 

[NWaviator]

More I think about it more I want SKW to buy QX.

 

[DHPFLYN]

If you add your perdiem, bonus you can break $100K a year as a 6th year Captain... I avarage 105hrs credit.. Plus 10-15hrs of that is JM pay also.. And we bid 12 times a year and Horizon only bids 11 .. You can nit-pick both airlines. But in the end we all make within 10-20K + or - of each other... Big deal. Im happy at SkyWest, Im happy were i live , ski 3-4 days a week in the winter, and pack on the miles on my road bike in the summer and don't commute... All this does'nt meen im not looking to move on though.. We also have our own problems. Low staffing, can't get vacation, ect....

You can't get vacation?? Why is that? Do they stop you from taking your vacation?

 

[Nevets]

The only way to measure pay AND QOL is to take your total income on your W2 and divide it by total block hours flown or TTAB and compare that number.

FWIW, JA once told the XJT MEC that the average compensation at XJT was 12% higher than ASA and 16% higher than Skywest.

 

[amcnd]

You can't get vacation?? Why is that? Do they stop you from taking your vacation?

Only Master vacation. That is bid on and is done Nov evey year for the next year... IN SLC there are 409 RJ CA and only 10 Vacation spots each week of the month... DEN has 260 and the same 10 spots.. Seem wrong.. If you don't already have master vaction awarded, trying to put in a request for time off is a waste of time... DENIED!!!

 

[Erlanger]

The only way to measure pay AND QOL is to take your total income on your W2 and divide it by total block hours flown or TTAB and compare that number.

FWIW, JA once told the XJT MEC that the average compensation at XJT was 12% higher than ASA and 16% higher than Skywest.

Jerry is screwing with you. He wasn't talking just about pay rates. I've seen Jerry's take on compensation in writing. He conciders the premiums on insurance that Skywest pays for you and its contribution to your 401k and countless other things I can't recall from that list of his, as "compensation". Skywest use to tell us what our "compensation" was. My "compensation" was like double what my W2 was.

 

[homerjdispatch]

Jerry is screwing with you. He wasn't talking just about pay rates. I've seen Jerry's take on compensation in writing. He conciders the premiums on insurance that Skywest pays for you and its contribution to your 401k and countless other things I can't recall from that list of his, as "compensation". Skywest use to tell us what our "compensation" was. My "compensation" was like double what my W2 was.

Oh yes, the "total compensation" B.S. SkyWest even put out an entire publication once showing us the "total compensation". It was so insulting it was funny...even included payroll taxes!!!

 

[badog]

Really?

Jerry is screwing with you. He wasn't talking just about pay rates. I've seen Jerry's take on compensation in writing. He conciders the premiums on insurance that Skywest pays for you and its contribution to your 401k and countless other things I can't recall from that list of his, as "compensation". Skywest use to tell us what our "compensation" was. My "compensation" was like double what my W2 was.

I don't know who's more PATHETIC, this person or jerry?
If our mngmnt threw this at us we'd revolt with laughter and skw people agree with this bs?
What's MORE PATHETIC is that skw flight attendants have 500 votes FOR a union. How ironic that the fa's MAY vote in a union BEFORE the pilots?
PATHETIC..

 

[homerjdispatch]

I don't know who's more PATHETIC, this person or jerry?
If our mngmnt threw this at us we'd revolt with laughter and skw people agree with this bs?
What's MORE PATHETIC is that skw flight attendants have 500 votes FOR a union. How ironic that the fa's MAY vote in a union BEFORE the pilots?
PATHETIC..

Or BRILLIANT... Let the FA's vote in a union, then tell management, give us union wages and work rules or we follow suit...

 

[imisscorplife]

Ive been with Skywest for 4 years now and in 2010 I made 40k and that was on reserve all year breaking guarantee twice. Ive worked for charter/corp and another regional and I have to say that Skywest has its fair share of problems but its much better than the previous companies Ive worked for.

Im concerned about what Skywest Inc. is doing with ASA/XJT but I have no control over that, union or not, so should I have some sort of guilt? Other companies arent run right and treat their crewmembers like crap, so what can I do to help? Quit Skywest to prove a point, theyll just fill in the gap with a new hire. Regionals will always be a stepping stone to most, some companies better than others, just like the majors. I wasnt happy with my previous pilot positions so I LEFT!!! If youre not happy, leave!!

Vent complete

 

[IBNAV8R]

The only way to measure pay AND QOL is to take your total income on your W2 and divide it by total block hours flown or TTAB and compare that number.

Only if you measure QOL in terms of pay per hour. But let's compare anyway.

$146.65/block hour (16yr SKYW Capt)
$39.72/hr TAFB