Skywest new pay proposal! HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

[Nevets]

how much of a raise would we be getting right now if we had votes YES? that is, after the 1.9% we'd lose.

You will never know now will you? The fact of the matter is that Skywest pilots do NOT have any leverage when "negotiating" their pay and work rules. You do NOT have the ability to self help and therefore you will not have real good faith bargaining that provides you with a "fair" wage. Only a union can provide any of that. And until then, Skywest pilots will continue to ride the coat tails of other unionized pilots as Skywest management has suggested in their own SEC filings!

 

[GearBayOverheat]

The fact of the matter is that Skywest pilots do NOT have any leverage when "negotiating" their pay and work rules. You do NOT have the ability to self help and therefore you will not have real good faith bargaining that provides you with a "fair" wage.

True....

Daddy is offering to raise our allowance. We would be fools to say no.

 

[Baronman]

Being the highest paid regional is a lot like being the tallest midget at the circus. At this point, my real worry is what happens when all the majors find dance partners... and decide that they don't all need five (or ten) regional partners and a bazillion rjs. Great pay is only great when you still have a job.

Uhh...Yeah, maybe you should offer some of your current pay back so you make sure you still have a job later, cause you are the midget everyone is laughing at.

Seriously, guys like you amaze me...

 

[Jmoney]

67%

This is what you get, all you 67% that voted against ALPA-that means YOU-SKYNATION!!!!!!!!!!

 

[XPOO]

Oh No! The Sky Is Falling Again! Someone, Quick, Call Alpa! Aaaarrrrrggggghhhhh!!!!!

 

[XPOO]

Which brings me to my next question. Who keeps raising the sky back up after everytime, and believe me it has been quite often lately, that it falls?

 

[John Pennekamp]

how much of a raise would we be getting right now if we had votes YES? that is, after the 1.9% we'd lose.

SkyNation, look up the pay rates, and rigs (soft money) in our new contract, then subtract 1.95%.

We're still making more than you will be with this joke of a raise.

And as someone else pointed out, what happens to you if DAL and UAL merge? They won't need as much RJ feed, and it would be a lot easier for Inc. to furlough from the non union side. They don't have to follow seniority or recall rules.

Y'all better start kissing up to management now to reserve your chair when the music stops.

WAY TO GO 67%!!!

 

[Beergut]

The majority are getting exactly what they deserve. I just feel sorry for the minority that had a brain and voted YES.

You speak of voting with your brain yet your avatar would suggest otherwise.

 

[On Your Six]

Why would any employee think that management would serve their best interests first? Management has a fiduciary duty to keep costs low and profits high. Therefore, management will serve its own best interests FIRST and then consider the employee groups. I guess the 67% never considered that basic logic. Unions are never perfect solutions, but your pilot group has shown that without collective bargaining you have LITTLE to show for your efforts. Zip.

Well, it's your bed and now you have to sleep in it...

 

[PCL_128]

You speak of voting with your brain yet your avatar would suggest otherwise.

Well played, sir. Well played.

 

[relief tube]

is the kool-aid starting to run out? Make sure the 67%ers loose theirs first.

Only good thing is that pathetic $19 and hour 1st year pay goes up.

 

[Lazy8]

SkyNation, look up the pay rates, and rigs (soft money) in our new contract, then subtract 1.95%.

We're still making more than you will be with this joke of a raise.

And as someone else pointed out, what happens to you if DAL and UAL merge? They won't need as much RJ feed, and it would be a lot easier for Inc. to furlough from the non union side. They don't have to follow seniority or recall rules.

Y'all better start kissing up to management now to reserve your chair when the music stops.

WAY TO GO 67%!!!

I don't think they have to wait until Delta / United merge. Flying is already being dumped in Salt Lake and LAX. And why are their 46 reserve lines in Denver? Yeah - something tells me they're a little overstocked in all departments. How much longer do you think they're going to allow folks to sit around making gaurantee without touching a plane all month?

To this day it still amazes me that some of the folks there have such a hardon for the place... I mean. It's a regional. ...and it's about to remind them.

 

[BoilerUP]

Only good thing is that pathetic $19 and hour 1st year pay goes up.

...to still less than the first year pay at many other operators. Granted there is MUCH more to compensation than hourly pay rates, but for the love of Jebus even Mesa pays $22/hr for first year jet FOs!

 

[MONKEY]

There might be growth out there.

The additional aircraft type may well be smoke and mirrors. It is interesting though that while other regionals (mesa especially) are struggling to cover their flying, SkyWest has a boat load of reserves.

And why are their 46 reserve lines in Denver?

SkyWest traditionally runs pretty lean. Why are they staffed at current levels?

 

[TOOL CRIB]

The additional aircraft type may well be smoke and mirrors. It is interesting though that while other regionals (mesa especially) are struggling to cover their flying, SkyWest has a boat load of reserves.



SkyWest traditionally runs pretty lean. Why are they staffed at current levels?

Jan and Feb are pretty lean flying months in between two busy seasons (holidays and spring break). There are always extra reserves in Jan/Feb. When March/April comes around, they'll be used more.

 

[PBRstreetgang]

Heard from a senior chief pilot, mgmt is "planning" on Messa going out of business this summer, and picking up their flying. Priceless! going from being the premier regional(oxymoron) to carrion eater, whats next?
PBR

 

[XJohXJ]

Only good thing is that pathetic $19 and hour 1st year pay goes up.

Yes, the pathetic $19/hr raise is going up to a slightly less pathetic $22/hr. That's still pathetic.

 

[homerjdispatch]

Heard from a senior chief pilot, mgmt is "planning" on Messa going out of business this summer, and picking up their flying. Priceless! going from being the premier regional(oxymoron) to carrion eater, whats next?
PBR

Yet you continue to work here....

 

[flylike44]

chautauqua's first year pay is $22.95. ouch.

 

[PositionandHold]

Can always start another ALPA drive over there. Not like ALPA is gonna say "no you had your chance."