Skywest MRJ

[Freebrd]

why do we even have dispatchers, useless bunch, wish the FAA would eliminate them, save a bunch of money, under 135 we basically dispatched ourselves in the past (got our own wx, ordered our fuel, filed flt plans if needed etc etc), think of the cost savings if the FAA eliminated them, this is 2012 man, pilots can do their own dispatching!

 

[JettBoii]

Who cares. So fayetnam gets a fancy oversized RJ. It will still be flown to the same mediocre out stations. You will still get a regional wage. You will still fly seven legs a day with reduced rest overnights. They will be ordered stripped down; 1 FMS, No VNAV, No auto throttles, no fancy electric seats, no HUD....etc. They will soon turn into dirty airplanes that will be a mx nightmare until all the bugs get worked out. Etc. man I'm negative.

 

[WalterSobchak]

The short bus just stops at a different location, you want another sticker for your styrofoam helmet?

Dispatchers, the Flight Engineers of the new millennium.
Your relevance to flight operations is diminishing a daily basis. Don't worry you will still be able to come to F/I and be a voyeur.

Ooooo, pretty please...I like stickers and dinosaurs!

You and I tend to agree about OO mismanagement and the fact that employees accept more B.S. than they should. However, regardless of the amount of KoolAid they may drink, crapping all over your fellow employees is more of a sign of someone who loathes himself. It's OK, little buddy. I know you're a little upset that your career didn't quite go "as planned". However, just because you're a little irked with your station in life doesn't mean you've got to drag everyone down to your level of misery. I'm sorry you never made it to the big leagues like you wanted.

I'll be sure to have a beer for you while sitting out on my porch. The porch I sit out on before I sleep in my own bed. The bed in the new, freakin' sweet home I get to come home to from work every day. The job that, at least at the moment, values my skills enough to reward my workgroup with a payscale that likely rivals yours and a significantly more generous benefits than you currently enjoy. I'm happy with what I've got, as do most of the good folks down in SGU. You should try it sometime.

If my relevance diminishes in this industry, such is life. It would probably be at the hands of those we serve, the pilots, anyhow. Maybe our work would actually be appreciated once we were gone. Seeing that the rest of the world that currently does not utilize the skills and knowledge of dispatchers the way we do here in the States are beginning to add the position despite not being required to (see: Air France), I have a hard time believing we'll be going away within my lifetime. That said, if it all goes south, I actually have a skillset that is useful in the real world (and plenty of options from my previous career); my eggs are not all in one basket.

Now, run along and pout somewhere else.

Oh, by the way, ever wonder why you have to swap aircraft so much? There may he a reason for that, buddy...you're not as anonymous as you think.

 

[crazy8]

why do we even have dispatchers, useless bunch, wish the FAA would eliminate them, save a bunch of money, under 135 we basically dispatched ourselves in the past (got our own wx, ordered our fuel, filed flt plans if needed etc etc), think of the cost savings if the FAA eliminated them, this is 2012 man, pilots can do their own dispatching!

Please tell me you're joking. We do enough free work for our companies as it is. If they want to pay us a dispatchers salary on top of what we do now, then fine. Otherwise, I'm fine with printing paperwork. Let the dispatchers do their job.

 

[Freebrd]

Do their job? He'll man, the computer program does all the work. Just give access to a terminal and we can request/print he damn release. We can even request & print it out on that expensive SH paper on the planes! See so easy even a caveman can do it, or even 777!

 

[WalterSobchak]

Do their job? He'll man, the computer program does all the work. Just give access to a terminal and we can request/print he damn release. We can even request & print it out on that expensive SH paper on the planes! See so easy even a caveman can do it, or even 777!

It's so cute that you think it's that simple. Even the big international carriers who actually do their flight planning that way (primarily because their routes are not as dynamic as they are in U.S. airspace) have "dispatchers" to check the work. Even if you let a computer do all of the flight planning unchecked, who is going to keep the airline running and make subjective decisions in the name of safety and efficiency?...or, that whole "maintaining operational control" thing?

I love how the most vocal voices calling for our demise seem to have no farkin' clue just how vast the scope of our duties really is...but, hey, we're here for you anyway.

 

[crazy8]

Do their job? He'll man, the computer program does all the work. Just give access to a terminal and we can request/print he damn release. We can even request & print it out on that expensive SH paper on the planes! See so easy even a caveman can do it, or even 777!

Sorry man, I completely disagree. Dispatchers are a necessary redundancy. Just like having two guys in the cockpit, it's a system of checks and balances.

 

[Nevets]

I'll be sure to have a beer for you while sitting out on my porch. The porch I sit out on before I sleep in my own bed. The bed in the new, freakin' sweet home I get to come home to from work every day. The job that, at least at the moment, values my skills enough to reward my workgroup with a payscale that likely rivals yours and a significantly more generous benefits than you currently enjoy. I'm happy with what I've got, as do most of the good folks down in SGU. You should try it sometime.

To each his own but I'm curious about something. Why would your fellow employee have significantly more generous benefits?

Now, run along and pout somewhere else.

Oh, by the way, ever wonder why you have to swap aircraft so much? There may he a reason for that, buddy...you're not as anonymous as you think.

Wow, are all you SGU DXs that professional? And you just went off an a rant about your fellow employee crapping on other fellow employees yet some of you actually go out of their way to swap people's aircraft for expressing themselves on this forum?

That's pretty pathetic! No one is anonymous by the way.

 

[WalterSobchak]

To each his own but I'm curious about something. Why would your fellow employee have significantly more generous benefits?

Wow, are all you SGU DXs that professional? And you just went off an a rant about your fellow employee crapping on other fellow employees yet some of you actually go out of their way to swap people's aircraft for expressing themselves on this forum?

That's pretty pathetic! No one is anonymous by the way.

I haven't been employed by OO for nearly two years. We are no longer "fellow employees". I will, however, admit that I butchered that sentence.

(Before you ask, I still read this forum and defend my former coworkers because I enjoyed the experience and people there.)

As far as the swapping comment, it was strictly to point out that crapping all over the people who have a significant impact on your day may not be the best idea, especially when you're not as anonymous as you think you are. I could have been more clear in that and am unaware of anything like that happening at OO. I apologize for the lack of clarity.

Nevets, what you do is "express yourself", typically through rational discourse, and without publicly wishing for the demise of anyone without stripes on his shoulder. That is very different from what the poster in question does.

 

[homerjdispatch]

I dont believe any Dispatcher at OO "goes out of their way" to swap anyone. If anything, I see the oppisite. Day in and day out, the coordinator works hard to look for ways to get rid of swaps. I personally have seen system controllers spend countless hours going through the flow board looking at every swap, and seeing if there is a way to undo it. This isnt in their job description. Its extra work that goes largely unnoticed. They do it because they care. They want their co-workers to be as comfortable as possible. Sometimes its thanked, usually its not even noticed.

 

[pipi]

I love my dispatchers.

Love them...would not even dare thinking about doing this job without them....and if you think you could I am afraid you might just be a bit out of touch with reality...

 

[Freebrd]

Love them...would not even dare thinking about doing this job without them....and if you think you could I am afraid you might just be a bit out of touch with reality...

nah, not out of touch, maybe you need that crutch or to hold your little hand, I don't, we did it before under 135 with no problems, even easier now with smart phones for radar and weather, hell give us iPads and everything would be on it

 

[Mercyful Fate]

nah, not out of touch, maybe you need that crutch or to hold your little hand, I don't, we did it before under 135 with no problems, even easier now with smart phones for radar and weather, hell give us iPads and everything would be on it

Hell for that matter, who needs FA's either? Since all of this automation makes things easy, you should have plenty time to get up and service the cabin too.

 

[Freebrd]

did that in the corp world, well the Capt didn't, I did it

 

[nickgutnick]

nah, not out of touch, maybe you need that crutch or to hold your little hand, I don't, we did it before under 135 with no problems, even easier now with smart phones for radar and weather, hell give us iPads and everything would be on it

Maybe you can toss the bags, service the lavs and do your own maintenance super pilot. You should be in management with an attitude like that...tool! You must be a real joy to fly with.

 

[Freebrd]

no no service de lavs man, and our maint folks are top notch, I'm just saying, my opinion, we could do w/o disp if the FAA would lose that requirement, I mean hell, you need to talk to maint you go through your disp who does nothing more than transfer to maint, cute huh

 

[propjob27]

Skywest pilots cream themselves every morning when they look at themselves in the mirror.

True. Then use it as hair gel.

 

[XPOO]

no no service de lavs man, and our maint folks are top notch, I'm just saying, my opinion, we could do w/o disp if the FAA would lose that requirement, I mean hell, you need to talk to maint you go through your disp who does nothing more than transfer to maint, cute huh

So, while you are in the cockpit flying, you will be able to do the following while flying an aircraft:

* Work effortlessly with every other pilot to ensure all scheduled aircraft are routed to their respective maintenance bases, and avoid certain airports, weather, or PAX loads due to restrictive MELs.

* Continuously monitor your local, enroute, destination and alternate weather, notams, airmets, sigmets, pireps, VIP movement, and TFRs.

* Continuously monitor your flights flow times, or other delays, and enter those delays and their respective codes into the reservation system.

* Should you divert, please remember to enter all the coding necessary in the reservation system to reflect your diversion before landing so that the diversion station can accomodate PAX. You will also want to make sure that there will be station operations personnel on-hand when you arrive (hours of ops)

* When repositioning, ferrying or test flying an aircraft, please remember to build those flights into the company's flight planning software in order to build your release.

* Flight plan necessary flights with round-trip fuel in accordance with your company's policy.

* Work with customs and border patrol to ensure you have all of your required paperwork and clearances to operate in international airspace and be able to land and deplane.

* If you decide you need to cancel a flight you will need to contact all parties involved before cancelling that flight in the reservation system.

* When an IROP is in progress, send messages out to the hundreds of people that need to be notified in case the media, FAA, FBI or local authorities need to be involved. This would enclude, but not limited to, making all the phone calls necessary after overrunning a runway, aborting takeoff, bird strikes, lightning strikes, unruly passengers, and sick/ill passengers.

* Work in partnership with all pilots and ATC centers to ensure proper SIDs and STARs are being filed for all flights, including canned and playbook routes.

* When an extreme weather condition shut down a major company hub, coordinate with all pilots to ensure you are all in the cities you should be, with the aircraft necessary, in order to have the operation running like clockwork again once said hub is back up and operational.

These are just a few examples, I could keep going, but I think you get my drift. You 135 types are awesome, so I'm sure you could do all of this.

 

[Oakum_Boy]

Expressjet dispatch does none of the above about half the time

 

[homerjdispatch]

Expressjet dispatch does none of the above about half the time

Must be why the OO side keeps INC in business!


(its a joke people)