Skywest may finally have a reasonable chance of voting a union in...

[Scope out RJ's]

Why do you guys waste your time with ****************************** bags like pilotyip? He's management! At some ******************** hole operation, no less!

 

[PCL_128]

First, ABX is not ALPA, Second, why do you believe ALPA had anything to do with those pilots getting furloughed? Perhaps you should look at the real cause: incompetent and irresponsible managers such as yourself.

 

[Metro752]

Here is why Skyworst will never get a union.

The company will just transfer flying to ASA, and break the union effort.

Pretty simple.

Too many lifers at Screwest too.

 

[pilotyip]

esay now

Why do you guys waste your time with ****************************** bags like pilotyip? He's management! At some ******************** hole operation, no less!

Go back on your meds; call the doc in mourning, maybe he can give you something stronger. BTW you play like a violin. Happy Holidays, keep up the great work.

First, ABX is not ALPA, Second, why do you believe ALPA had anything to do with those pilots getting furloughed? Perhaps you should look at the real cause: incompetent and irresponsible managers such as yourself.

oops sorry, it is just I have interviewed so many unemployed union guys lately it is hard to keep them straight. Does not the union set the works rules and rates of pay? Don't those have an effect on the bottom line? Why is it in the 3rd quarter of 2009 the most porfitable airline is a non-union airline? BTW Hapy Holidays fly safe.

 

[Scope out RJ's]

Go back on your meds; call the doc in mourning, maybe he can give you something stronger. BTW you play like a violin. Happy Holidays, keep up the great work.

Get back on your diapers, call the FAA and try to get someone violated you management troll! Oh and by the way, when your workers strike, you can cross the picket line with the best of them!

oops sorry, it is just I have interviewed so many unemployed union guys lately it is hard to keep them straight.

Most scabs talk the way you do!

Does not the union set the works rules and rates of pay? Don't those have an effect on the bottom line? Why is it in the 3rd quarter of 2009 the most porfitable airline is a non-union airline? BTW Hapy Holidays fly safe.

You have all the answers, and yet you cry like a little snot nose that you couldn't get hired anywhere, but in MANAGEMENT! Way to go old man. Don't forget to take your cialis!
Happy holidays!

 

[Metro752]

Hey Scope, do you mind posting your credentials here for all to see including your name? It is easy to talk down to people on here, but God help you if any regional pilot on this message board, or the multitudes of others that you offend just by posting ever finds out who you are.

You are a scumbag of the highest order that is representative of what is wrong with a union pilot.

Tread lightly lest you get outed like Kid Charlemagne and your management at your place of work take a giant dump down your throat for posting such trash as an obvious representative of Delta Air Lines culture on this message board.

You are truly a piece of work.

Oh, and if you really have 20,000 hours, please heed the Geezermeter yourself which is linked on my profile. You cannot be too far off.

 

[Scope out RJ's]

Hey Scope, do you mind posting your credentials here for all to see including your name? It is easy to talk down to people on here, but God help you if any regional pilot on this message board, or the multitudes of others that you offend just by posting ever finds out who you are.

Sure: Credentials:

Current position: Something better than Metro752
Ratings: More than Metro752
Aircraft flown: More than Metro752
Total Time: More than Metro752

You are a scumbag of the highest order that is representative of what is wrong with a union pilot.

You are a douch bag of the highest order that is the representative of regional pilots with big mouths, fast keyboards, and no balls!

Tread lightly lest you get outed like Kid Charlemagne and your management at your place of work take a giant dump down your throat for posting such trash as an obvious representative of Delta Air Lines culture on this message board.

You are truly a piece of work.

Oh no, a threat from some troll posing as, ehem..... Metro752......Shouldn't you be impressing the young boys at the mall about this time?

Oh, and if you really have 20,000 hours, please heed the Geezermeter yourself which is linked on my profile. You cannot be too far off.

I couldn't hear you, my hearing aid battery died, WHAT???

 

[Metro752]

ahahahahahaahahah

 

[pilotyip]

not following advice

ahahahahahaahahah

Tried to get RJ to see a Doc tomorrow about changing his meds, but he just couldn’t wait. It is a good thing he/she hides its name, because with level of hostility, he/she might be a handful in the cockpit. BTW he looks like one those guys who really doesn’t know what a SCAB is so he calls everyone a SCAB, make him sound like what he thinks a professional pilot should sound like.

 

[Lear70]

To the person who reported Scope 9 different times within a couple minutes, you only have to report the thread once, 9 alerts do nothing but fill up my inbox.

Secondly, Scope hasn't done anything that violates the Terms Of Service of the board. If you prefer not to read his/her posts, you may block him/her specifically in your settings so that you don't have to read the posts.

Sorry, and I'm not saying I agree with his/her postings (I'm all for free speech, but there ARE some posters on this board I simply just don't read most of the time), I'm simply stating the rules that without violations of the TOS, no actions by the Mods can be taken. There's a fine line, and Scope usually stays on the side of it that prevents action on his/her account.

 

[Regul8r]

First, ABX is not ALPA, Second, why do you believe ALPA had anything to do with those pilots getting furloughed? Perhaps you should look at the real cause: incompetent and irresponsible managers such as yourself.

You're right. Too many pilots confuse ALPA with a Union that might be able to influence the future of their careers. As we all know, ALPA is an association. An association which does not address any of the major concerns todays pilots have. Thankyou for bringing light to this oft neglected subject.

 

[pilotyip]

Funny!!

You're right. Too many pilots confuse ALPA with a Union that might be able to influence the future of their careers. As we all know, ALPA is an association. An association which does not address any of the major concerns todays pilots have. Thankyou for bringing light to this oft neglected subject.

Now that is funny.

 

[Fly-By-Cable]

quick question, no flame at all.
I didn't read the entire thread so if this has already been asked please forgive me.
Why on earth would sky west want to vote in a union? They have the regional industry leading contract. Same could be said for jet blue. Look at what they get for the 190 and take a look at USair and Republic. Seems to me that it's working for em so what the hey?

We have a alpa and guess what. Pay...ok. work rules... less then ok. schedules....horrible.

If someone could explain why sky west needs a union I'd appreciate it.

 

[PCL_128]

Why on earth would sky west want to vote in a union? They have the regional industry leading contract.

They don't have a contract at all.

 

[Nevets]

You're right. Too many pilots confuse ALPA with a Union that might be able to influence the future of their careers. As we all know, ALPA is an association. An association which does not address any of the major concerns todays pilots have. Thankyou for bringing light to this oft neglected subject.

ALPA is an association which has helped make our profession safer through the decades. Even now ALPA is trying to change the FT/DT regulations to enhance safety. They have influenced this profession in a positive manner and continue to do so regardless of those who take it for granted. Thank you for reminding me about pointing out the the neglect some home of this truth.

quick question, no flame at all.
I didn't read the entire thread so if this has already been asked please forgive me.
Why on earth would sky west want to vote in a union? They have the regional industry leading contract. Same could be said for jet blue. Look at what they get for the 190 and take a look at USair and Republic. Seems to me that it's working for em so what the hey?

We have a alpa and guess what. Pay...ok. work rules... less then ok. schedules....horrible.

If someone could explain why sky west needs a union I'd appreciate it.

First of all, its not a contract. And I wouldn't call it regional industry leading. And what they do have has been eroded throughout the years. And it can be taken away at any time. And they have no legal grievance process. But their CEO has an employee contract! I can go on and on but I will stop there for now.

 

[ePilot22]

First of all, its not a contract. And I wouldn't call it regional industry leading. And what they do have has been eroded throughout the years. And it can be taken away at any time. And they have no legal grievance process. But their CEO has an employee contract! I can go on and on but I will stop there for now.

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[vtech]

The title of this thread makes no sense. There's no active organizing effort at Skywest. ALPA won't spend any more money there for a long time if ever again. Somebody mentioned the lawsuit ALPA filed against Skywest. What did that get anybody? The guy who was at the head of the last OC at Skywest called it a "major victory for labor in this country." Huh? How'd that lawsuit turn out in the end? ALPA wasted a bunch of money, filed a lawsuit and got virtually nothing. The only thing the lawsuit accomplished was making a bunch of pilots not vote for
ALPA. ALPA filed a petition, had an election and got less than 35% of the votes.

Reasonable chance to vote in a union?

There was a call for volunteers for a new ALPA OC at Skywest about six weeks ago. They said they needed 280 volunteers. Already there have been 30 step forward for the OC. That only leaves 250 to go. A very small minority of pilots at Skywest, a lot of them junior and sitting reserve, make most of the posts on the SAPA forums. Most of the posts are about their individual situations. Nobody cares about anybody's individual situation. The majority of pilots at Skywest don't even bother to read that stuff. What's the title of this thread? Skywest may finally have a reasonable chance of voting a union in? Not likely. Not any time soon. No OC. No union drive at the moment. Nothing to see here. Move along.

 

[mtsupilot376]

ALPA sent letters to over 300 ASA pilots threatening to have them fired over the ASA assessment....It resulted in ALPA becoming even more unpopular at ASA.

Wonder why ALPA has such a hard time at Skywest.....?

Has anybody thought about a decertification drive here at ASA?
With the anti-union sentiment as strong as it is I think we might have a chance of a successful vote.

 

[Nevets]

The title of this thread makes no sense. There's no active organizing effort at Skywest. ALPA won't spend any more money there for a long time if ever again. Somebody mentioned the lawsuit ALPA filed against Skywest. What did that get anybody? The guy who was at the head of the last OC at Skywest called it a "major victory for labor in this country." Huh? How'd that lawsuit turn out in the end? ALPA wasted a bunch of money, filed a lawsuit and got virtually nothing. The only thing the lawsuit accomplished was making a bunch of pilots not vote for
ALPA. ALPA filed a petition, had an election and got less than 35% of the votes.

Reasonable chance to vote in a union?

There was a call for volunteers for a new ALPA OC at Skywest about six weeks ago. They said they needed 280 volunteers. Already there have been 30 step forward for the OC. That only leaves 250 to go. A very small minority of pilots at Skywest, a lot of them junior and sitting reserve, make most of the posts on the SAPA forums. Most of the posts are about their individual situations. Nobody cares about anybody's individual situation. The majority of pilots at Skywest don't even bother to read that stuff. What's the title of this thread? Skywest may finally have a reasonable chance of voting a union in? Not likely. Not any time soon. No OC. No union drive at the moment. Nothing to see here. Move along.

With all things being equal, I would probably agree. But since the NMB is in the process of changing election rules, there is as strong of a possibility of them unionizing than before.

 

[ePilot22]

With all things being equal, I would probably agree. But since the NMB is in the process of changing election rules, there is as strong of a possibility of them unionizing than before.

That may not be happening as quickly as everyone would like. SkyWest set a lawyer/line pilot we have to the NMB hearing and unfortunately his point was the NMB does not have the power to change the election process. It can only be changed by an act of Congress.

NMB Link Reference page 207, line 12.

It appears that this could be tied up in the legal process for years.







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