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a lot of it has to do with ASA. Also, our "agreement" negotiations haven't been going so great. We have nothing to stand on because we cant strike. My personal reason for wanting a union is for protection from the unknown and to have a little bargining power. Our pay raises aren't keeping up with the cost of living. Even with the longevity increases, pay isn't keeping up with the cost of living. The way things are going, once you make RJ capt, that's your earning power for the rest of your time at skywest.Flying Illini said:can I ask an honest question without getting flamed?
Why do the pilots of SkyWest want a union on the property? Is life really that bad? Is this to try and protect yourselves from what may happen with the ASA seniority list?
Why ALPA with all of the recent talk of them doing nothing for their
members?
Thanks for the serious responses.
Flying Illini said:can I ask an honest question without getting flamed?
Why do the pilots of SkyWest want a union on the property? Is life really that bad? Is this to try and protect yourselves from what may happen with the ASA seniority list?
Why ALPA with all of the recent talk of them doing nothing for their
members?
Thanks for the serious responses.
viper548 said:Our pay raises aren't keeping up with the cost of living.
jehtplane said:How about to protect your jobs, 1.2%, future whipsawing of the pilot groups......
viper548 said:theres at least has an end date
JoeMerchant said:You must be kidding jehtplane!
1. "to protect your jobs": How has ALPA been doing in this department? ALPA hasn't been "protecting" any jobs except for those in Herndon.
2. "1.2%": At least it is a positive number. The Delta pilots are about to take ANOTHER 19% paycut. The CMR pilots are about to take a paycut. Watch for more cutting to come.
3. "future whipsawing of the pilot groups": How do you figure? ALPA hasn't stopped the whipsaw between ALPA groups up to this point. How would SKYW be any different?
Put down the Herndon crack pipe...
Joe
DL is in CH 11, SKW is posting record profits. I'm not so concerned about the meager pay raise as I am about the fact that there's no end date. Hopefully DL will be turned around at the end of their agreement and they can get their pay backJoeMerchant said:So this 19% paycut at Delta is better than your 1.2% payraise because it ends in 5 YEARS! The last 19% paycut the Delta pilots agreed to had an end date also - it has just been extended.
ex j-41 said:Don;'t use ALPA. THey are not in the business of representing regional pilots.
Any regional pilot will tell u this....
JoeMerchant said:You must be kidding jehtplane!
1. "to protect your jobs": How has ALPA been doing in this department? ALPA hasn't been "protecting" any jobs except for those in Herndon.
2. "1.2%": At least it is a positive number. The Delta pilots are about to take ANOTHER 19% paycut. The CMR pilots are about to take a paycut. Watch for more cutting to come.
3. "future whipsawing of the pilot groups": How do you figure? ALPA hasn't stopped the whipsaw between ALPA groups up to this point. How would SKYW be any different?
Put down the Herndon crack pipe...
Joe
~~~^~~~ said:BleDevAv8r:
You must not remember that you almost had one list with your brothers at Continental before ALPA stepped in and derailed it.
~~~^~~~ said:BleDevAv8r:
You must not remember that you almost had one list with your brothers at Continental before ALPA stepped in and derailed it.
pianoman said:I have to disagree with that. Continental management was always STRONGLY opposed to a single seniority list. Explain to me how ALPA was to blame for that again? How did they step in and "stop" it?
If anyone did, it was our "brothers" at mainline in Houston and Guam.