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SKYW, Inc Q3 2012 Results - $20M Profit

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Our concessionary contract only strengthens our reasoning for not wanting another one. How long did your lagging contract last before you got your current one? Five years? Why did it take so long? Because you wanted something better than what you already had? Because I'm 100% positive that management wouldve agreed to renew that old contract for another 5 years in an instant. So to us, we are ok waiting 5+years while we have our current contract in order to not take another concession. So how is it unreasonable for you guys and for us now to wait rather than to agree to a concession?


Why don't you address how someone makes $300,000 first.


Are you holding out for half a mil for each pilot?
 
So to us, we are ok waiting 5+years while we have our current contract in order to not take another concession. ?

And that is ok. Just remember that everytime an erj comes up for a lease return, which begins next year, they will be returned to CAL. Why do you think your loosing 53000 block hours next year. Hmmmmmm.

And xjt has approx 200 pilots that will not meet the new atp requirements in 08/2013. What will happen to them? The street.
 
And that is ok. Just remember that everytime an erj comes up for a lease return, which begins next year, they will be returned to CAL. Why do you think your loosing 53000 block hours next year. Hmmmmmm.

And xjt has approx 200 pilots that will not meet the new atp requirements in 08/2013. What will happen to them? The street.

That is status quo. It was in the old CPAs and is in this new one. I have no idea or care about ATP eligibility.

Just to be clear, I'm ok with those aircraft being parked.
 
You already have a concessionary contract that you agreed to, Steven. You have a captain that made $300 thousand last year because of it. Great for him, but very unreasonable.







Seriously, $300,000 for real? How is that even possible??:confused:
 
Seriously, $300,000 for real? How is that even possible??:confused:

You'd have to ask Steven, I don't follow their contract, but it has something to do with being able to drop trips and pick up premium open time trips at 200%.

Concessionary my ass.
 
Of course you are. You're a senior lifer.

I've been here 7 years and not planning on being a lifer. But my point being is that those aircraft leaving when their 15 and 15.5 year leases expire were part of the original CPA CAL wrote when they spun off COEX in 2002, it was part of the amended CPA in 2008, and part of the new CPA in 2010 when Skywest bought us. In all cases, we've known those aircraft will leave when their leases begin to expire next year. It would be true if Skywest wouldn't have bought us. Hence why I said it was status quo.

You'd have to ask Steven, I don't follow their contract, but it has something to do with being able to drop trips and pick up premium open time trips at 200%.

Concessionary my ass.

This proves your ignorance. We haven't had 200% in about a year. And when we did have it, it was very sporadic. And not one person can monopolize it anyway.

Our contract is concessionary in that LOA 9 was ratified with a 6.87% pay cut on all pay rates. We did get a couple of improved contract language but it wasn't monetary.
 
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Thank you for your affirmation of our pilot contract, Mr. Dispatcher.

You're welcome. When most employee groups are getting nothing, and some are even being asked for paycuts, I just want to know what makes the XJT pilots more special than the rest.
 
Of course you are. You're a senior lifer.

But when these a/c are parked SKYW INC can do a new cpa for flying at SKYW or ASA. Also those approx 200 pilots...what do you think will happen to the flying they were doing. Yep, ASA to cover.
 
You're welcome. When most employee groups are getting nothing, and some are even being asked for paycuts, I just want to know what makes the XJT pilots more special than the rest.

Nothing makes us more special. My only point is that it doesn't make sense to agree to a concession when we don't have to. We are not at will employees like you guys are so they can't just "ask" for pay cuts. But thanks again Mr. Dispatcher for injecting yourself into a conversation about XJT pilots' contract.
 

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