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MoroniMetro

MoroniMetro

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I don't know what is worse, seeing a Flagship 900 or a Skywest 200 in ATL. I guess for their pilot's sake it is almost like looking in a mirror, only the Skywest pilot gets to see the sparkle a quarter an inch from the bottom of their shoe.

A.L.P.A holds their sacred ballots, S. Holocust spreads the news of ASA demise, unless of course of the heraldic angel of PBS shows up, (not to be confused with Macaroni), and Skywest 200's show up to cover our over-stressed routes.....???

I think I will go puke now....

I assure you it's from the booze, and not the Skywest "override". Keep enjoying those perks until we die!!!
 
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lowlycfi said:
Only for captains.
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Revelation? Mesa pilot's really know how to throw a contract down. Almost as bad as the senior Deltoids pissing on their narrow bodies guys with scope relief. Enjoy your "glory" years. "Can I get a windcheck"?
 
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Drunk posting is fun, yay...
 
PBS is coming, and so is dual qual. Simply put, no dual qual, no new bases or growth for ASA. We're getting closed to being the only regional out there that doesn't do it, and any new bases will be small enough to demand it.

PBS will happen, question is how and when. If we've got the leverage now and the company wants to institute it early enough, I say get what we can for it. I feel the longer we wait, the less control we'll have over it, and the worse it will be. We enjoy line bidding, but since the company builds the lines..............how long do you think they will be decent until the company starts making them worse to make PBS look lucritive?
 
JumpersAway said:
We enjoy line bidding, but since the company builds the lines..............how long do you think they will be decent until the company starts making them worse to make PBS look lucritive?
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What r u smoking? The lines are decent?!? Lines have sucks for the past 8 months and getting worse! I'm sure there's something they can do, but they can't get much worse. Used to be able to hold 3-day trips... Thanks SH.

PBS will happen and it can be decent in a large base like ATL but it has to be done right, and you're right that we have more power now to make sure it gets done right.
 
ASA pilots are really ignorant if they think that we're going to get any new growth or hold on to what we have with our current work rules. We're not dual qual, we use hard lines, and we're expensive on top of that. So what do ASA pilots do, they accuse other companies of stealing their flying. It's Delta's flying, and they contract us to fly their seats. Pinnacle, or any company really, would be smart to ask for just a little bit less than what ASA has right now, and they'd see more growth. Wake up, ASA, the gravy train is over.
 
MoroniMetro said:
I don't know what is worse, seeing a Flagship 900 or a Skywest 200 in ATL. I guess for their pilot's sake it is almost like looking in a mirror, only the Skywest pilot gets to see the sparkle a quarter an inch from the bottom of their shoe.

A.L.P.A holds their sacred ballots, S. Holocust spreads the news of ASA demise, unless of course of the heraldic angel of PBS shows up, (not to be confused with Macaroni), and Skywest 200's show up to cover our over-stressed routes.....???

I think I will go puke now....

I assure you it's from the booze, and not the Skywest "override". Keep enjoying those perks until we die!!!
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Christ I saw a Delta 88 the other day flying some of our routes...it's BS man!
 
Cpt Oveur said:
ASA pilots are really ignorant if they think that we're going to get any new growth or hold on to what we have with our current work rules. We're not dual qual, we use hard lines, and we're expensive on top of that. So what do ASA pilots do, they accuse other companies of stealing their flying. It's Delta's flying, and they contract us to fly their seats. Pinnacle, or any company really, would be smart to ask for just a little bit less than what ASA has right now, and they'd see more growth. Wake up, ASA, the gravy train is over.
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Exactly. All of you republicans out there love your "market forces" so much, but then complain when they are working against you in your career.

We are a company, and we have to be competitive.
 
moronimetro said:
i don't know what is worse, seeing a flagship 900 or a skywest 200 in atl. I guess for their pilot's sake it is almost like looking in a mirror, only the skywest pilot gets to see the sparkle a quarter an inch from the bottom of their shoe.

A.l.p.a holds their sacred ballots, s. Holocust spreads the news of asa demise, unless of course of the heraldic angel of pbs shows up, (not to be confused with macaroni), and skywest 200's show up to cover our over-stressed routes.....???

I think i will go puke now....

I assure you it's from the booze, and not the skywest "override". Keep enjoying those perks until we die!!!
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you need a life!
 
Nothing new here. There's like only 1 or 2 crj9 in ATL now and only 4 or 5 crj2. No growth, just movement of ac type. Carry on.
 
lowlycfi said:
Now that's the best news I've heard on Flightinfo in a long time.
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You actually listed "AGI" as a rating? Now that is great humor!

(A little like listing "pocket pool expert" as a skill.)
 
MoroniMetro said:
I don't know what is worse, seeing a Flagship 900 or a Skywest 200 in ATL. I guess for their pilot's sake it is almost like looking in a mirror, only the Skywest pilot gets to see the sparkle a quarter an inch from the bottom of their shoe.

A.L.P.A holds their sacred ballots, S. Holocust spreads the news of ASA demise, unless of course of the heraldic angel of PBS shows up, (not to be confused with Macaroni), and Skywest 200's show up to cover our over-stressed routes.....???

I think I will go puke now....

I assure you it's from the booze, and not the Skywest "override". Keep enjoying those perks until we die!!!
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Hark!! Macaroni speaketh....

Trojan
 
We should not give up anything. We are not so highly compensated now to even consider giving anything up. If the company wants PBS, it's gonna cost them. Just like if we want one more day off, or better work rules itsgonna cost us. Some of you seem to be under the impression that mgmt is you're friend! Haha! They will say anything to get you to bend to there demands. It's like Stockholm syndrome with some of you clowns. The only thing that makes ASA more expensive is the fact that we are a really senior group, nothing more.
 
I would gladly reverse years of blood, sweat, and tears from our fellow pilots if it means I can continue flying jets...
 
bluefly72 said:
I think we all should take a pay cut....
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The next time SH is in recurrent, why don't you just service him right then and there? I am sure he would be so appreciative that he would exclude you from any and all upcoming cuts.
 
management needs a paycut, not us-it's their job to make money given the costs associated with the business
 
Most of the G/O has taken a pay cut. Inflight pay is already low with the turnover rate, that and they've reduced longevity by firing a lot of senior f/a's. They've also eliminated many positions. Wake up, it's not CT vs the union anymore. We're all in it together.
 
Dual qual and PBS may put a small dent in our cost but at what cost to the pilot group? The main reason our cost is so high is how senior our pilots are. We have one of the highest paid contracts with one of the most senior pilot groups, what is there not to understand. We cannot be the second lowest DCI contract without gutting our pay which is not going to happen so why give away anything? Managment talks us into it and in a year nothing has changed except our quality of life. I am not unwilling to help us grow but the fact is unless we have a max exudus at the top of the pilot group which also will not happen nothing we do will put our cost inline with Peenuckle or Mesa or Republic. If Delta want's us to be here we will be, if they don't we won't. It's that simple.
 
No, we can't force a mass exodus of pilots, you're right. However, we can certainly put dents in our costs, and we must if we want growth. We're not going to get any growth is a senior pilot group with high costs. We don't have to gut our pay, but running a more efficient and leaner pilot group lowers costs, than yes, we need to do that. Is it not our responsibility to do our part?

We forfeit the right to complain about competitors wining our flying if we choose to sit on the side and not compete.
 

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