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skypine69 and Sedona16,
honest question. have you guys run for SAPA rep? served in the past?
I guarantee that if or when ALPA comes on board, and guys like me will be tempted to mockingly scream 'where are you ALPA' everytime I stub my toe I(a la a certain hillbilly who fell assbackwards into $, but now complains he's not getting enough from SW), that the response will be 'what have YOU done? volunteer your time!'
again, go with what works best, I always say.
skypine69 and Sedona16,
honest question. have you guys run for SAPA rep? served in the past?
I guarantee that if or when ALPA comes on board, and guys like me will be tempted to mockingly scream 'where are you ALPA' everytime I stub my toe I(a la a certain hillbilly who fell assbackwards into $, but now complains he's not getting enough from SW), that the response will be 'what have YOU done? volunteer your time!'
again, go with what works best, I always say.
With SAPA our quality of life and Pay has not improved at least in the last 6 years. It has gone down hill.
just because I don't endorse ALPA doesn't mean that I'm a rah! rah! guy for SAPA. I wish some people were outside of the box enough to be of the opposite stance. Just because you trash SAPA doesn't mean that ALPA is the answer, and vice-versa.
if you took a poll at ASA, Mesa, Comair, et al about how their QOL and pay has gone over the last 6 years, what do you think they'd say? do you know that you make as much or more than pilots at those companies with the same seniority? your future looks brighter as well, should you chose to stay here. also, though some complaints are certainly valid, I'd venture that you are treated better here talking everything in total compared to them. Doesn't what has happened there and at others give you any pause at all? Before you shout back about what here should give me pause, know that some things do. But I have to be realistic and compare our overall package to what others have.
I like it here and realize that while we have our problems, in the end our deal is better.
I don't know what the better answer is. I just know, based on results, that ALPA isn't it automatically, by default, or for any other reason. That's like saying that because you opposed Bush you must have had a hard-on for Kerry, or vice-versa. I'm hoping we have better options than just SAPA or ALPA, as if it must be one or the other, and realistic about what we have now and what the market will bear.
if you took a poll at ASA, Mesa, Comair, et al about how their QOL and pay has gone over the last 6 years, what do you think they'd say? do you know that you make as much or more than pilots at those companies with the same seniority? your future looks brighter as well, should you chose to stay here. also, though some complaints are certainly valid, I'd venture that you are treated better here talking everything in total compared to them. Doesn't what has happened there and at others give you any pause at all? Before you shout back about what here should give me pause, know that some things do. But I have to be realistic and compare our overall package to what others have.
I like it here and realize that while we have our problems, in the end our deal is better.
I don't remember ever defending SAPA. I don't. I just don't share the enthusiasm for ALPA. been there, done that, got the stickers.