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motch said:
A350...
I disagree. I knew of a couple of pilots who went over there. They did that AFTER going to GoJet. Their goal was not about being on the begining of a good thing. They merely cared about themselves and saw this as a way to get into a left seat and hope for the best.

I will be requesting that my company NOT give them preferrential interviewing, as we will be doing to ATA and Aloha pilots.

From day one, this was a plan for some of the top managers to make money and bail. Skybus was not set to be a "career" airline. I for one am glad to see them gone. Now the industry can realign itself. $10 tickets is (was) a gimick.. not a business plan.
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THAT is a great post ....... :)
 
A350, I never said I was happy. I'm more like "no love lost". Sadly many pilots who went there were justifying to themselves that maybe they were going to be the next Southwest. Maybe the Skybus pilots should have realized that it took Southwest pilots 29 years to be put on your pedestal of top paid pilots. 28 more years than Skybus.

It never ceases to amaze me that people/pilots still fall for the get rich (ahead) quick schemes.
 
Shrek and Motch, your disregard for the hundred or so pilots at Skybus is truely disheartening. Be it said and argue with me as you will but I will gladly meet you in any STL parking lot to prove one's worth. Skybus pilots gave much more than what you were or have ever been willing to give. I know various ACA/Independence pilots that felt this was the one chance to recover what they had lost. Do you not remember that ACA had a well respected contract. Oh, but wait, there were two GoJet pilots at Skybus which in itself is enough to bring down any carrier. Please disregard the Trans States pilots that were key in rallying against the TSA MEC and ALPA National in voting down a GoJet acceptance of the TSA Pilot group. Yes I was critical in that "No" vote. You guys are so full of "S". Yes I am calling you two out. Therefore, if you wish to bash me, please speak to the current TSA pilot respresentation of what a few Skybus/TSA pilots accomplished for the pilots of TSA. Unanimously vote in an industry lowering contract extension and find out what happens!

A few of us decided to give Skybus a go. We started with promises and then moved as a group to secure those promises. Some of us had a lot to lose and others, with recall rights, really had nothing to lose. In the end, we all hoped to reap reward for our efforts and risk. Unfortunately, sometimes you lose, but you pick yourself up by your bootstraps and move. So, to Motch and Shrek, please tell me about your "no" vote to GoJets and their furlough protection. Did you really vote no in the face of DM and DW or did you rely on the attitudes of the line pilot. Give me a break with you rhetoric and meet me in STL!
 
boulevard said:
Shrek and Motch, your disregard for the hundred or so pilots at Skybus is truely disheartening. Be it said and argue with me as you will but I will gladly meet you in any STL parking lot to prove one's worth. Skybus pilots gave much more than what you were or have ever been willing to give. I know various ACA/Independence pilots that felt this was the one chance to recover what they had lost. Do you not remember that ACA had a well respected contract. Oh, but wait, there were two GoJet pilots at Skybus which in itself is enough to bring down any carrier. Please disregard the Trans States pilots that were key in rallying against the TSA MEC and ALPA National in voting down a GoJet acceptance of the TSA Pilot group. Yes I was critical in that "No" vote. You guys are so full of "S". Yes I am calling you two out. Therefore, if you wish to bash me, please speak to the current TSA pilot respresentation of what a few Skybus/TSA pilots accomplished for the pilots of TSA. Unanimously vote in an industry lowering contract extension and find out what happens!

A few of us decided to give Skybus a go. We started with promises and then moved as a group to secure those promises. Some of us had a lot to lose and others, with recall rights, really had nothing to lose. In the end, we all hoped to reap reward for our efforts and risk. Unfortunately, sometimes you lose, but you pick yourself up by your bootstraps and move. So, to Motch and Shrek, please tell me about your "no" vote to GoJets and their furlough protection. Did you really vote no in the face of DM and DW or did you rely on the attitudes of the line pilot. Give me a break with you rhetoric and meet me in STL!
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LOL talk about sour grapes.. and what's with meet me in the parking lot. Already starting the gangsta life style.. not impressed.

Skybus was bad for the industry and it also took down quite a few bad apples. Wah wah!
 
boulevard said:
Shrek and Motch, your disregard for the hundred or so pilots at Skybus is truely disheartening. Be it said and argue with me as you will but I will gladly meet you in any STL parking lot to prove one's worth. Skybus pilots gave much more than what you were or have ever been willing to give. I know various ACA/Independence pilots that felt this was the one chance to recover what they had lost. Do you not remember that ACA had a well respected contract. Oh, but wait, there were two GoJet pilots at Skybus which in itself is enough to bring down any carrier. Please disregard the Trans States pilots that were key in rallying against the TSA MEC and ALPA National in voting down a GoJet acceptance of the TSA Pilot group. Yes I was critical in that "No" vote. You guys are so full of "S". Yes I am calling you two out. Therefore, if you wish to bash me, please speak to the current TSA pilot respresentation of what a few Skybus/TSA pilots accomplished for the pilots of TSA. Unanimously vote in an industry lowering contract extension and find out what happens!

A few of us decided to give Skybus a go. We started with promises and then moved as a group to secure those promises. Some of us had a lot to lose and others, with recall rights, really had nothing to lose. In the end, we all hoped to reap reward for our efforts and risk. Unfortunately, sometimes you lose, but you pick yourself up by your bootstraps and move. So, to Motch and Shrek, please tell me about your "no" vote to GoJets and their furlough protection. Did you really vote no in the face of DM and DW or did you rely on the attitudes of the line pilot. Give me a break with you rhetoric and meet me in STL!
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I'll take this one fellas. You're full of "S" "Reap the reward of our efforts and risk" No sir, that's called taking the easy way out! I'll be the first to show up in the STL and I'll bring my integrity with me. Working for chump change is called selling yourself short let alone selling out to the rest of your peers in this industry. Go to a casino if u want to gamble. And don't give this I gotta provide for my family BS either. I'm sure drug dealers and pimps say the same thing. If u had any integrity u would have told yourself 60,000 a year isn't what I'm worth to peform one of the most skilled, detailed, and responsible jobs, even if it easy. So save the MEC, GOJETS, ALPA blah blah for another thread. I never want to see anyone fall on hard times as do I think its busch league to kick someone while there down. Life is not determined by the risks we take but the choices we make in life tough guy. I never post on this garbage any way I'm going back to doing something more productive and searching for porn.
 
boulevard said:
Shrek and Motch, your disregard for the hundred or so pilots at Skybus is truely disheartening. Be it said and argue with me as you will but I will gladly meet you in any STL parking lot to prove one's worth. Skybus pilots gave much more than what you were or have ever been willing to give. I know various ACA/Independence pilots that felt this was the one chance to recover what they had lost. Do you not remember that ACA had a well respected contract. Oh, but wait, there were two GoJet pilots at Skybus which in itself is enough to bring down any carrier. Please disregard the Trans States pilots that were key in rallying against the TSA MEC and ALPA National in voting down a GoJet acceptance of the TSA Pilot group. Yes I was critical in that "No" vote. You guys are so full of "S". Yes I am calling you two out. Therefore, if you wish to bash me, please speak to the current TSA pilot respresentation of what a few Skybus/TSA pilots accomplished for the pilots of TSA. Unanimously vote in an industry lowering contract extension and find out what happens!

A few of us decided to give Skybus a go. We started with promises and then moved as a group to secure those promises. Some of us had a lot to lose and others, with recall rights, really had nothing to lose. In the end, we all hoped to reap reward for our efforts and risk. Unfortunately, sometimes you lose, but you pick yourself up by your bootstraps and move. So, to Motch and Shrek, please tell me about your "no" vote to GoJets and their furlough protection. Did you really vote no in the face of DM and DW or did you rely on the attitudes of the line pilot. Give me a break with you rhetoric and meet me in STL!
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Boulevard

You gutless, spineless coward.

You got what you deserved.

Live with it.
 
So basically, the sky(bus) is falling.

Aloha, ATA, Skybus, Midwest Express Express, Champion, NWA is parking airframes, UA is parking airframes and cutting class size, and so on and on and on.

This is looking worse than the last job implosion after 9/11. Why is everyone giving in before summer busy season?
 
Luckily most Skybus pilots don't have far to fall once they find a new job. Second year FO pay at most regionals was better than Skybus FO pay.

Of course, with all of these job loses, regional jobs might become hard to get. This is a scary industry.
 
It never ceases to amaze me how one could revel in the demise of another. The usual suspects are here in true post-mortem fashion picking the bones of the deceased.
 
boulevard said:
Shrek and Motch, your disregard for the hundred or so pilots at Skybus is truely disheartening. Be it said and argue with me as you will but I will gladly meet you in any STL parking lot to prove one's worth.(I think you have bitten off more than you can chew with that one.....you don't know me son.) Skybus pilots gave much more than what you were or have ever been willing to give.(Like their integrity and self-respect to wear a Ranger Rick uniform, carry worthless "stock options" and selling the profession and everyone in it short.......) I know various ACA/Independence pilots that felt this was the one chance to recover what they had lost. (They are owed nothing in this business - nobody is you OR I)Do you not remember that ACA had a well respected contract. Oh, but wait, there were two GoJet pilots at Skybus (you contradict yourself later in this post......)which in itself is enough to bring down any carrier. Please disregard the Trans States pilots that were key in rallying against the TSA MEC (I was part of the TSA MEC and for your info they were "neutral" on the vote officially but their personal views were clearly in line with the vote.)and ALPA National in voting down a GoJet acceptance of the TSA Pilot group. Yes I was critical in that "No" vote. You guys are so full of "S". Yes I am calling you two out. Therefore, if you wish to bash me, please speak to the current TSA pilot respresentation of what a few Skybus/TSA pilots accomplished for the pilots of TSA. Unanimously vote in an industry lowering contract extension and find out what happens!

A few of us decided to give Skybus a go.(More than 2 then?!!......of course you did - same circus different clowns - say hi to DT for me)We started with promises and then moved as a group to secure those promises. Some of us had a lot to lose and others, with recall rights, really had nothing to lose. In the end, we all hoped to reap reward for our efforts and risk. Unfortunately, sometimes you lose, but you pick yourself up by your bootstraps and move. So, to Motch and Shrek, please tell me a bout your "no" vote to GoJets and their furlough protection. Did you really vote no (Proudly) in the face of DM and DW or did you rely on the attitudes of the line pilot. Give me a break with you rhetoric and meet me in STL!
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You were pathetic at GoJets.............pathetic for taking a job at SkyBust - and now, surprise, "calling us out" on the playground after school to "duke" it out to save your reputation......unfortunately you have no reputation to protect.

You should be concentrating on getting that new job - maybe you can get DT to get you another job, but he is doing the same. :puke:
 
ICAO said:
Even Sooner Then I Was Thinking.....wow
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I told you so...........Not even the pilots whoring themself out would save a sh&thole like skybus...If ya'll still want to work for cheap rates..I heard mesa is hiring or you can fly checks...
 
RJP said:
So basically, the sky(bus) is falling.

Aloha, ATA, Skybus, Midwest Express Express, Champion, NWA is parking airframes, UA is parking airframes and cutting class size, and so on and on and on.

This is looking worse than the last job implosion after 9/11. Why is everyone giving in before summer busy season?
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But everyone keeps saying there is a pilot shortage.
 
I guess that having a primary hub in Columbus Ohio wasn't a great business plan after all. Why did anybody lend these people money in the first place with a plan like that? I don't see how any LCC can hope to make it without a huge local traffic base. I don't think that Skybus would have made it even in a better economy with lower fuel prices.

Let's face it, every domestic route that can make money for an airline is already being flown by at least one carrier. Every city that can support an airline hub has at least one airline hubbed there already. There's way too much capacity already, why would anyone start another domestic airline?
 
A350 said:
What kind of pathetic losers would gloat about the loss of one's career and income. You may not like the concept of Skybus, but a lot of good people got horrible news this week. There are a lot of good people hurting out there and the job market has gone from bad to worse.

So instead of gloating and high fiving each other, how about a little respect and a little humble pie. You never know who is next.....

In disgust,

A350
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Amen to that.

No matter what your thoughts are about Skybus, gloating about 500 people losing their jobs overnight reveals far more about the "gloaters" character than the Skybus employees.
 
boulevard said:
Shrek and Motch, your disregard for the hundred or so pilots at Skybus is truely disheartening. Be it said and argue with me as you will but I will gladly meet you in any STL parking lot to prove one's worth. Skybus pilots gave much more than what you were or have ever been willing to give. I know various ACA/Independence pilots that felt this was the one chance to recover what they had lost. Do you not remember that ACA had a well respected contract. Oh, but wait, there were two GoJet pilots at Skybus which in itself is enough to bring down any carrier. Please disregard the Trans States pilots that were key in rallying against the TSA MEC and ALPA National in voting down a GoJet acceptance of the TSA Pilot group. Yes I was critical in that "No" vote. You guys are so full of "S". Yes I am calling you two out. Therefore, if you wish to bash me, please speak to the current TSA pilot respresentation of what a few Skybus/TSA pilots accomplished for the pilots of TSA. Unanimously vote in an industry lowering contract extension and find out what happens!

A few of us decided to give Skybus a go. We started with promises and then moved as a group to secure those promises. Some of us had a lot to lose and others, with recall rights, really had nothing to lose. In the end, we all hoped to reap reward for our efforts and risk. Unfortunately, sometimes you lose, but you pick yourself up by your bootstraps and move. So, to Motch and Shrek, please tell me about your "no" vote to GoJets and their furlough protection. Did you really vote no in the face of DM and DW or did you rely on the attitudes of the line pilot. Give me a break with you rhetoric and meet me in STL!
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So you are upset that we are happy because an airline full of turds went under? You losers knowingly took jobs at an airline who's pay scale and operation was a joke.

All you wanted to do was get a fast track into the left seat of a bus. So in the end you have no one to blame but your self. At least you have a costco membership from all your runs to get water on your days off!

Next time I am in STL I'd gladly meet you in a parking lot. Some how I feel that an internet tough guy like your self couldn't even beat a one legged man in an ass kicking contest.

Did you pick the STL parking lot because you will be there already with a sign "will fly for food"?
:p
 
ya...one more bunch of guys welcome here and lots of places overseas...unlike the net-jets "slowtation" loosers...
 
I do have to love all the regional pilots talking about people just wanting a fast track to the left seat....isn't that the whole point to working at a regional?
 
LOL...

Can't meet you in STL, flying with the National Guard this weekend.

As far as my integrity is concerned... I have been posting with my REAL nickname for the past 8 years. I have run into people as far as Tokyo who have read my posts and know about me, beside numerous pilots throughout the land. I have nothing to hide.

I will never look at anyone who went to GoJet or Skybus as anything but a person looking to take the easy road and get around the system at the detriment of his fellow pilots.
Both GoJet and Skybus were/are a cancer to our industry AND our profession.

I think it says something when only a handful of people are defending Skybus while the majority of the industry are glad to see them go...

And, as a side note. Someone within my current pilot group has already sent a letter to the company concerning the jumpseat. Not that it matters... we never had an agreement with Skybus to begin with!

To everyone else out there;
Fly Safe~
 
and as far as one down, one to go...

nope, not JB or Frontier. I honestly think they started with a plan to be around for a while. And from my understanding, they have some sort of minimums to be hired!
 

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