jetops said:
you get a wining pilot that bitching because he only got 13day off this month,and he should had 15 days
being that most carrer do sch 4on 3off ,4on 4off .
so if your working 4 day on 4 off with a average 12on duty and with a average 3.0 to 7.0 hrs of flt time and 12hrs a day for duty x 4 days = 36hrs hrs on duty.
Oh God, it took me five read-throughs with the grammatical, spelling, and punctuation errors before I got all of it, but I'll try to respond, even though it appears this may be the flame bait of a 5th grade (that's about the writing level we're working with here).
Jetops, your posts are filled with contradictions, you trip all over yourself from post to post. First, you say that pilots whine because they only got 13 days off instead of 15, then you say that "most carriers do 4 on 3 off, 4 on 4 off which yields 13 - 14 days off, then you post a response wherein the pilot gets 12-13 days off... which is it?
Oh, and by the way, you're "4 day on, 4 day off with an average of 12 hours on duty x 4 days"
is 48 hours on duty... (12 times 4 = 5th grade math)
Incidentally, 4 trips at 4 days each times 48 hours of duty each is 192 hours per month, versus your ramp worker's 8 hour day 5 days per week averaging 160 hours per month. In plain English, pilots work more duty hours
under your own example! Oh, and we don't get paid for duty hours, just block... would you come to work and get paid for only the hours you're actually throwing a bag or pushing an airplane or would you insist on getting paid from when you clock-in until you clock-out? That's what I thought.
while the pilot core aka people like you with the mentality that some ramp guy makes to much money . most ramp guy make far less than a pilot makes for the same amount of time .they work far more hrs a month .
I just proved that under your own example, ramp workers work
far less hours per month, although they do make far less.
the problem with us air is pilots over payed and under worked .
my point is ramp personel earn a fair pay for what they do . also pilots earn fair pay for what they do .
Which one is it? Do pilots earn fair pay or are pilots over-
"payed" (incidentally, the word is "
paid"). Back on track, are you a US Airways pilot? No. Have you gotten called up to fly on your off days every day you've been off this month? Since you're not a pilot, I'd hazard a guess that answer is "No". US Airways has furloughed to the point that their pilots are working 16-18 days per month on average and receiving 12-14 days off. I wouldn't call that "under-worked" by any stretch of the imagination.
granted when you at a regional they start pilots and ground pounders at fair pay ,but then you get a major you will make better than average pay for the hours that you work .
OK, I had to retype this 3 times to take all the curse words out of my response... At a regional, they start pilots off at fair pay? Put down the crack pipe and pay close attention.
Let's assume you have your G.E.D. and you decide to invest about $3,000 a year at a local in-state college for 4 years to get a degree, that's $12,000. Then you pay another $15,000 to $20,000 to get the half dozen or so different pilot licenses we have to have to fly for an airline. Then you either go out and flight instruct for 2 or 3 years to get the flight time to get on with a regional
OR you spend another $25,000 at a PFT school to get an interview with a regional and are
lucky enough to get on.
Now pay attention, because this is the question we have for you: If
YOU PERSONALLY had just spent 4-7
YEARS of your
LIFE in college working two jobs just to eat and go to school, and/or assumed
tens of thousands of dollars in debt just to get on as a regional airline pilot,
just to get paid a wage that qualifies you for food stamps your first year as a "PROFESSIONAL AIRLINE PILOT", would you then
CONSIDER YOURSELF FAIRLY PAID??!!
Until you've walked a mile in a pilot's shoes, and I say this in the nicest way, why don't you have a big steaming cup of STFU and leave this board to the people who live in the real world?
