sim time as total time

[siucavflight]

Hey Let em not log it. I don't care. Means they are missing out.

So are you saying that you should count it as total flight time, or as sim time? I can understand logging it as sim time, absolutely nothing wrong with that, but as total flight time? No way.
Missing out on what? Most of us are flying almost 90 hours a month, what wil a few hours of sim time here or there do for us?

 

[ChickenSled]

Missing out on what? Most of us are flying almost 90 hours a month, what wil a few hours of sim time here or there do for us?

Some companies allow you to use 100 hours of level D toward your upgrade requirement. If you have seniority for upgrade but not enough hours, I say use it. 60 hours of sim, 90 hours a month. 2/3 of a month you just saved. Say $30 FO pay, $60 captain pay. Upgrade 60 hours earlier, difference is $30 an hour, you just netted $1800.

I'm not saying to log it as total time, log it seperate, but do log it. It may come in handy.

 

[siucavflight]

If you have seniority for upgrade but not enough hours and sim hours count toward total time for upgrade, I say use it. 60 hours of sim, 90 hours a month. 2/3 of a month you just saved. Say $30 FO pay, $60 captain pay. Upgrade 60 hours earlier, difference is $30 an hour, you just netted $1800.

I work at Eagle, I did not even consider this.

 

[Rally]

SIM time is not total time. So how about just logging it has sim time in your logbook, not total time and if it comes down to need a substitition for like a ATP or whatever just use the sim time there, (on the 8710) it does'nt have to be total time in your log. The regs say you can substitute it for total time not that it IS total time.

 

[prtyprtyprncss]

Hey Let em not log it. I don't care. Means they are missing out.

Surely Perdue doesn't allow students to log sim as total time?!?

 

[prtyprtyprncss]

And remember, companies do what they do...if the POI has signed off on doubling company time, subbing level D time, reducing IOE with landings, etc...that's a company thing...it will not fly thru an interview with another airline which is what I was thinking we were talking about here...

 

[OCP]

Alright go with this guys answer. Then when you get asked why you are logging your time incorrectly on an interview, just say "well this guy OCP on flightinfo said that you should be able to because of the way that you are trained on most newer airplanes" Then just sit back and smile, next question!!

Holy crap you caught me! I'm trying to undermine the entire system! Yes for all those who are reading this... I AM THE DEFINITIVE PLACE FOR ALL LEGAL ANSWERS!
However where does it say in the FARs that a level C or D sim is not total time? hmmm... grey area?

 

[mcleach71]

If you are going to log the sim time, ensure you get the instructors signature. It is Training Time(65.51(h)), and must be endorsed by an authorized instructor as such. Training time w/o endorsement is invalid=>can't be logged at all per the FAA.

Your company records are a different issue altogether, what they require towards upgrade is based on their internal training and line flying record keeping, not just your FAA logbook.

 

[Erlanger]

You can spin it anyway you want but sim time does not count toward total time. Total time is actually "total flight time". Anyone have a definition for what "flight" means?

 

[Erlanger]

Here it is, I found it under FARs Part 1, sec 1-1;

Flight time means: (1) Pilot time that commences when an aircraft moves under its own power for the purpose of flight and ends when the aircraft comes to rest after landing.