Seniority dispute ends at US Airways

[Cowboy75]

" Seniority dispute ends at US Airways "

You mean it's over? OVER?

I don't think so....

Here's to the next 5-10 years:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V8lT1o0sDwI

Good one, Whine Lover, a true classic!

 

[Guppiedriver]

These two groups better find a way to get along or it aint going to last.

By getting along, do you mean the west should just give up and let USAPA have DOH?

What isn't going to last?

 

[WSurf]

This sums it up!!!!!! Its that silly!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oesOC7JvcwQ&feature=related

 

[clr4theapch]

For those that have requested new forums for "mergers".. the mods have no way to make, or authorize the building of new sections on FI... you the members may request this to the web site owner anytime for consideration, but dont hold your breath..

websitemaster if the PM you can sent this to...

 

[TWA Dude]

This binding means binding is old and does not appear to have enough traction.

The US Constitution is getting old as well yet it's still the law of the land. Binding still means binding even you're tired of hearing it. It's the law.

 

[Scope out RJ's]

USAPA is proposing a legal seniority list that maintains East pilots’ pre-merger career expectations, improves upon the majority of West pilot’s pre-merger career expectations and most importantly will lead to a contract that the membership will ratify.​

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:laugh::laugh::laugh:
East pilots career expectations pre merger was Walmart Greeter, at best.

 

[General Lee]

Disapointing, you generally have good well thought out posts. I don't agree with all of them but they are generally good. This binding means binding is old and does not appear to have enough traction.

Nope. Binding will stay binding, and the East guys will always be known as a bunch of cry babies. Don't sign on the line if you don't intend to follow the judgement. If USAPA goes ahead with their plan, they will still LOSE in the end, and will always be known as LOSERS to everyone else in the industry.


Bye Bye--General Lee

 

[Capi_Cafre']

The East just reached the tipping point where it has actually started to believe its own lies. As long as "that the membership will ratify" continues to mean "that we can shove down the West's throats" nothing can or will change. DFR II in....3...2...1...

 

[St. Nic]

The letter has a positive, reconciliatory tone, so that is good even though it is clearly skewed to the East's position. That is to be expected, of course.

I agree that this changes very little in the present time.

I must take great issue with this line, as someone intimately familiar with the AAA pilot group for over a decade. -

The sins of ALPA that were wrought upon the East pilots happened to our former America West pilots too.

Who exactly is ALPA? An evil terrorist organization? A massive corporate conglomerate?
No, it is the pilots themselves! "We have met the enemy, and it is us!" Pogo

The AAA pilot group has been their own worst enemy since I have been involved (or subjected to) with their leadership.

Parity + 1% for what is essentially a regional airline, killed the golden goose.

Wide open floodgates to "affiliate" carriers (MESA, etc.) leading to decimation of their jobs. 3/5th of all flights under US Airways banner are now non-mainline flights.

Refusal to permit the WO-whorely owned carriers to operate RJ or large turboprop AC, resulting in less control and less profit as well as no leverage or strength in numbers.

Refusal negotiate a flow thru (preventing a flowback and avoiding years of unemployment for their mainline members).

There is much more sordid, misguided history. I hope the gentlemenses @ USAPA can begin to right the ship, but it will never bear fruit until the Nicolau award is resolved.

Perhaps the current USAPA officers and volunteers are not the same mustachioed monsters of career destruction, but sitting idly by while your leaders run amok and run your career into the weeds is hardly an excuse. Aside from owning the election results, a pilot group has many options to affect change from within.

Ohhh boy, where do I begin? ALPA is the nemisis of all medium to small airlines, controlled by DAL, UAL and NWA. Now, they are seeing their dues money collapse and are fearful of more pilot groups doing what the USAIr pilots did- leave the show! And the movement is strong at UAL to do just that! More to follow.

The westicles have finally realized that it is the end of the road for their Nic fantasy. GAME OVER

 

[St. Nic]

Nope. Binding will stay binding, and the East guys will always be known as a bunch of cry babies. Don't sign on the line if you don't intend to follow the judgement. If USAPA goes ahead with their plan, they will still LOSE in the end, and will always be known as LOSERS to everyone else in the industry.


Bye Bye--General Lee

NOthing like a deltoid to sling mud- you guys are such class acts. How do you live with yourselfs?