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[redflyer65]

Wave,

It's just the first chart I grabbed, but they are all the same so the source shouldn't matter.

The point being, many of us are NOT better off. The Democrats love to point to the stock market being up, so all is good right? Well, you know there's been 'quantitative easing' pretty much the whole time. You can't discount that. I'm not saying it wasn't the right thing to do, but definitely effects the market.

Part two, who's invested in this great market? Not the lower and middle class...so how does that help them? There median income has been going down under this administration. Why is that? More part-time jobs and food stamps than ever! Could you imagine us continuing down this road longer than 2 more years? It's a disaster for many.

 

[waveflyer]

You aren't better off red?

Well, the disappearing middle class has everything to do with the current tax situation and millionaires paying 15% or less with carved out deductions and low to middle class paying well north of that-

That's a democratic platform issue-
And republicans keep blocking any attempt to address it.

So you're saying you will join me in voting democrat this year?
Bc that is the logical conclusion from the post above

As Clinton says often we all do better with a strong middle class

Millionaires become billionaires- those who would be stuck in survival mode are freer to get to the top-

 

[redflyer65]

Am I doing better off? Sure.

You think the reason is because of the Dems? No. (well, maybe because of their bond buying program) I'm probably upper middle class but live WELL below my means. Invest heavily for my future...not for others. So instead of 'you didn't build that', I say I have built it through my saving and investing.

I think it's funny that the Dems like to claim victory for the stock market, but you'll notice they don't give a rats arse about the price of gas right now. You remember when they were screaming about Bush driving the price of gas up? They were calling for Congressional Hearings. You know they needed to get to the bottom of it. Now? Nothing...

Food prices are up, gasoline is up....but hey, much like SW....the stock prices are up, so who gives a sh!t right?

You good with 17+ Trillion in debt Wave? I'm not and the Dems could care less. Do you honestly think I have that wrong?

Here's the other interesting thing about the 'bond buying'. Who do you think it's helped? The people who had excess money!

 

[redflyer65]

One more question Wave...


Every wonder why DC talks about the Social Security insolvency, but nobody talks about Welfare insolvency? Why is that?

Those in the first group actually paid into something, those in second group paid nothing.

Mark my words, there will eventually be a SS means testing, and when that goes down I hope your cool with losing every bit of SS that you paid in. That's where we are headed....guaranteed.

 

[PCL_128]

wave, why are you beating your head against the wall? You know you're not going to teach economics to people with the collective intellect of a cantaloupe.

 

[bluesideup1]

wave, why are you beating your head against the wall? You know you're not going to teach economics to people with the collective intellect of a cantaloupe.

You mean passing a 447 Billion dollar shovel ready jobs bill that cost the taxpayer around $300,000+ for every temp job created? If that is the kind of economics that you teach then yes I am a cantaloupe. Or maybe we can look at all the other bastions of economic growth were the Dems have had a Majority for the last 30 years such as Stockton, CA, San Bernidino, CA, Mammoth Lakes, CA, Central Falls, RI and of course the ever illustrious and largest city to ever default Detroit, MI.

This is where you oh so wise in economics Democrats lead to when you continue to throw money at those who don't work and raise taxes on those who do.

Please PLC show this poor cantaloupe how the GOP in calling for fiscal responsibility and trying to get Obama to stop running Trillion dollar deficits is better than a Tax and spend attitude of the Dems?

But then again it is quite typical of left thinking that name calling and comparing their intelligence to those of a cantaloupes instead of spelling out how your economic plans work is once again par for the course. It is typical when the Dems "economic plan" is such a failure that the only thing you can do is call names. Next I am sure you will call me a racist for disagreeing with the disaster we now have as a president.

 

[PCL_128]

wave may engage you, but I won't waste my time. Go read some Keynes and get back to me.

 

[twepilot]

You'll never change the mind of a stinkin lib..especially that one.
RV

 

[waveflyer]

Once again reading comprehension not your strength. A Scab...Really? You are a ********************ING MORON. Not even close to the same thing. Free ride my ass. I pay my share in taxes. I pay more yearly than my parents or grand parents ever did. Save your liberal number skewing for someone who believes your BS. I would be willing to pay more if it didn't go to growing the govt. You libs like to parrot CNN in the GOP blocked this and blocked that. Take all the BS spending out of the bills and maybe they will pass. You need more govt control Wave. I simply want less and will never agree with or vote for anyone who does.
Figures lie and Liars figure. You may skew you stats anyway you like. It's still BS. Once again write a bigger check to the IRS you ********************ing hypocrite.

I pay a hell of a lot more than my parents and grandparents, but I make a lot more than they ever did. Or you for that matter I would imagine.
Adjusted for inflation, you're saying that people who make what we make today, pay more taxes than they did? That's false. Unequivocally false.

I must have hit a nerve.
You don't like viewing yourself as a freeloader. Yet if we pass along debt to the next generation that is this substantial, like you've apparently convinced yourself is your right to do- then you are exactly that

Submit all the rationalizations a scab would make. You disagree. If the terms were only better. Etc etc. the end result is the government that our generation is responsible for is transferring a debt that we voted to accumulate onto our children.

Sorry, that deserves as much respect as a scab. And I certainly don't need to be lectured by someone who has no accomplishments that I don't. I have your job. I know what we did to get here, and I work for the airline that has held up wages in america for a decade. Add our business and unless you've got substantial incomes on the side, then I pay a much greater amount than you do.

None of that means we can just stand indignant and pass our debt. OUR DEBT SCAB! Ie: not THEIR DEBT. OURS!! Onto our kids.

And until we choose not to do that- we are fu(king freeloaders.

Whether you like that or not. It is what you are.
At least I'm actively working to not be that.

 

[J.Otto]

Wave, how do you find the time to take these irrational posters seriously. You expend way too much energy and patience with lucid profundity to those with potatoes in their ears and the reasoning of a loyal pet dog.

 

[waveflyer]

wave may engage you, but I won't waste my time. Go read some Keynes and get back to me.

I'd settle for them reading the cliff notes of Adam smith...

 

[PCL_128]

I'd settle for them reading the cliff notes of Adam smith...

Amen.

 

[redflyer65]

Why would we read that when we've been under the philosophy of John Keynes the past 6 years? You know, there is no bounds to government spending. But hey, I guess you guys are good with that..

 

[J.Otto]

Why would we read that when we've been under the philosophy of John Keynes the past 6 years? You know, there is no bounds to government spending. But hey, I guess you guys are good with that..

these Kenyan philosophers need to butt-out of the us economy and deal with their ebola epidemic. What does Africa know about out our money system anyway. We like to borrow and spend beyond our means. What business is it of theirs anyway.

 

[jonjuan]

If our national debt--just under Obama--were its own country, it would be the third largest econom in the world. Our total debt-- $17 trillion--is about the size of the entire US economy as of last year. To pay it off, we'd have to take every penny earned by every man, woman, child, business, corporation, pot dealer and street walker for the entire year of fiscal 2013, while not spending a single additional penny. On ANYTHING.

Borrowing trillions to pay the equivalent of six Ecuador's ($101B) worth of welfare and unemployment is not solving any problems.