SeaWorld, Southwest Airlines Ending Partnership

[PCL_128]

I don't have kids, but there are no fish tanks or ant farms in my house. As to the rest of your post, you really need to learn more about these mammals, because you clearly know very little about them if you think they're looking for a human to toss them fish in a confined space for 30 years.

 

[Luv2BFlyin]

Comparing an Orca to a pet like a housecat or dog is pure ignorance. Pets have been bred over tens of thousands of years to be domesticated animals that thrive on human companionship. Putting a Pomeranian in the wild would be just as cruel as putting an Orca in a tank. Orcas did not evolve to be human companions.

Pets are animals, an exponential number of "pets" have created exponentially more tragedies than these less popular pet species. It just makes good cover to report on a rare negative interaction and report on it as a norm. Come to think of it, kind of like gun issues. There is a pattern.

 

[PCL_128]

There is a difference between a domesticated species and a wild species. And yes, there is a pattern. The pattern is right wingers ignoring science on every issue.

 

[blesko]

That is merely mans rationalization of this injustice.

The wild is where all animals have evolved to live in and belong to an ecological chain. For better or worse, the animal is most satisfied and content when it functions within its own natural environment, not some artificial one which poorly replicates it for the appeasement of human folly. Disturbing it sends a rippling effect of repercussions throughout the entire animal community. Man has tampered too much with the natural systematical order of things, causing havoc everywhere.

The natural habitat is where an animal is comfortable and most at home, not in some confined area where they're guaranteed a meal when made to perform. I'm sure you think the circus is a great place for an elephant as well. The treatment of elephants in a circus is a real travesty of animal life.

If you're a vegetarian, and concerned about the animals as well, stop eating their food....enough said

 

[waveflyer]

There is a difference between a domesticated species and a wild species. And yes, there is a pattern. The pattern is right wingers ignoring science on every issue.

Game
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[Russ]

PCL

Are you a vegetarian?

 

[waveflyer]

Doesn't popular culture influence human behavior, PCL?

This surely is captivity and turning a mammal into circus act- but do you think sea world has influenced our culture to be more sensitive to whales? To love them even. So that we get to a point in society where we would even care that sea world had one in captivity.

I think that's my take on it. We went from absolute ambivalence to caring so much about whales that we as a society can't stand them being held in captivity any longer. One could say that sea world built up the good will that will lead to the end of their most famous attraction

 

[waveflyer]

PCL

Are you a vegetarian?

I'll pretend that answer was for me-

I am not. I see hunting and consuming animals as natural as gathering and more natural than agriculture of any kind, much less modern versions.

The meat industry that tortures animals should end, and the people that actually own, work and buy those products should hopefully die a similar death.

Gnarly attitude, I know. But we can respect life and eat meat.

NONE of which has anything to do with keeping an orca in captivity and training it to do stupid tricks

 

[Russ]

I guess we will disagree. I live in San Diego. I can't count how many times the local sea world is called out to rescue differing critters that wash up on the local s*************************. They nurse them back to health and release them. Stuff like that has to be funded somehow. I also look at the good that comes from people who otherwise wouldn't know or care about sealift via the park. Don't deny the captive animals might enjoy a life of dodging supertankers in the oceans, but sea world has to be judged not only on a narrow parameter but on the overall good it provides. The ones in the wild are better off due to the ones in captivity.

I presume you recognize the thin ice you operate on from a consistency and hypocritical viewpoint.

 

[Russ]

Local s*************************, not sure why it was asterik'ed out.

 

[waveflyer]

I don't disagree with what you said at all.

 

[J.Otto]

If you're a vegetarian, and concerned about the animals as well, stop eating their food....enough said

Hey bro... haven't you heard of farms that grow vegetables for human consumption? It's a sustainable way to feed us without disturbing the food chain.

Vegetarian?!?! My diet consists of so few fruits and vegetables, I spend an inordinate amount of time grunting out everything else I eat twice a day. :blush:

Thank god for Preparation H! :laugh:

 

[Luv2BFlyin]

Game
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You guys got me, call names and make absurd generalities saying that right wingers ignore science on every issue.

 

[PCL_128]

PCL

Are you a vegetarian?

Of course not. Humans are omnivores. Fighting that nature is unhealthy. But there is a difference between killing humanely for survival and torturing animals. Seaworld does the latter.

 

[PCL_128]

Doesn't popular culture influence human behavior, PCL?

This surely is captivity and turning a mammal into circus act- but do you think sea world has influenced our culture to be more sensitive to whales?

Eh, I'm not at all confident in that. I suppose it's possible, but if so, that effect has long since taken place, and there's no longer any justification for torturing these animals. The remaining ones in captivity should live out their lives there as peacefully as possible, breeding them should cease immediately, and then it should come to a complete stop.

 

[waveflyer]

That's my conclusion-

Sea world served it's purpose, but now has to evolve into something better than stupid whale tricks or ... Cease to exist

 

[tankerhead]

A family can spend a pretty nice day at Sea World and never even visit the Orca enclosure.

 

[BILL LUMBERG]

There is a difference between a domesticated species and a wild species. And yes, there is a pattern. The pattern is right wingers ignoring science on every issue.

Well played PCL...+1

 

[BILL LUMBERG]

You guys got me, call names and make absurd generalities saying that right wingers ignore science on every issue.

So show us your cards.....prove your statements

 

[krewmeel]

I think Seaworld should contract with JAL. I hear the Japanese really hate dolphins and whales...