S5 E-170 upgrade @ 6/04

[Afixedwing]

Shuttle America has pilots in the next upgrade class with a 6/22/2004 DOH.

I can say with absolute certainty that this is not true.

 

[SF340Guy]

I can say with absolute certainty that this is not true.

I can tell you initials. If you have the list, you can ask him yourself. And you do understand that I mean upgrade, not bridge class right?

 

[SkyBoy1981]

Hahahaha...this is amusing. So what if you get that quick upgrade. Do you really think its that easy to move on? Do you know how many senior Captains I fly with every pairing that are trying every way possible to get hired to fly for SWA, FedEx, and UPS and have not so much as been invited to an interview? I don't know what pipe dream some of you are living in, but I think you will soon be welcomed to the real world.

 

[SF340Guy]

Hahahaha...this is amusing. So what if you get that quick upgrade. Do you really think its that easy to move on? Do you know how many senior Captains I fly with every pairing that are trying every way possible to get hired to fly for SWA, FedEx, and UPS and have not so much as been invited to an interview? I don't know what pipe dream some of you are living in, but I think you will soon be welcomed to the real world.

Well hey, If I don't move on as quickly as I would like, all of the guys on the other side of the list that I have met, say that the 170 makes a great waiting room.

 

[SkyBoy1981]

Well hey, If I don't move on as quickly as I would like, all of the guys on the other side of the list that I have met, say that the 170 makes a great waiting room.

Yeah, I'll take my 145 waiting room with the bigger paycheck.

 

[SF340Guy]

Yeah, I'll take my 145 waiting room with the bigger paycheck.

Then that means that you are already a captain, congrats. 26 and a captain at an airline that flies E-145s for more money per hour than the E170 rates @ RAH...

Where would that be again?

 

[SkyBoy1981]

Never said I was a Captain. And 2005-1981 would make me 24. Sure hope that 170 doesn't require much math skills to fly. XJT 50 seat pay is higher for Captains years 1-3 than CHQ/Republic/SA on the 170.

 

[SkyBoy1981]

Did I mention my line this month has 17 days off? And I'm not very senior either. Life here is good...you can keep your 70 seat crap.

 

[boxjockey]

Wow, you guys make a whopping $3/hr more than your 145 rate, to fly an aircraft with 20 more seats? I'm very sorry to say this, as I know several CHQ pilots who are great guys, but you are a total f@cking toolbox to go around touting crap pay like that. Northwest flys an aircraft the same size as yours, for twice as much. Go to bed f@ckstick.

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[SF340Guy]

Never said I was a Captain. And 2005-1981 would make me 24. Sure hope that 170 doesn't require much math skills to fly. XJT 50 seat pay is higher for Captains years 1-3 than CHQ/Republic/SA on the 170.

I'll buy you dinner at the rainbow room the next time an XJT pilot upgrades in year one. Infact, I will buy dinner for everyone reading this thread the next time an XJT pilot upgrades in year one. Print it out, and PM me with a copy of the award the next time it happens.

BTW you got me on the age thing...

 

[SkyBoy1981]

I'll buy you dinner at the rainbow room the next time an XJT pilot upgrades in year one. Infact, I will buy dinner for everyone reading this thread the next time an XJT pilot upgrades in year one.

Nope, it won't happen...you know why? Because its a better place to work. Generally thats how it goes. We're all going to be stuck flying RJ's for a while, so it might as well be at a place with good QOL and plenty of work rules. If the pay is the same, then who gives a damm what type of airplane it is.

 

[SF340Guy]

Nope, it won't happen...you know why? Because its a better place to work. Generally thats how it goes. We're all going to be stuck flying RJ's for a while, so it might as well be at a place with good QOL and plenty of work rules. If the pay is the same, then who gives a damm what type of airplane it is.

Yeah, it has nothing to do with the fact that CAL has you scoped at an airframe limitation.

 

[boxjockey]

No, it has to do with the fact that almost any ExpressJet pilot you ask, would rather see larger equipment at mainline. Why do you think so many people are staying here versus going to CAL? Same reason why there are so many lifers at Comair. They are both great places to work. How many people do you think will stay around RP because it's such a great place to work?

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[SkyBoy1981]

Yeah, it has nothing to do with the fact that CAL has you scoped at an airframe limitation.

As I said already, our pay is already higher for the 50 seat than yours is for the 70 seat, with the exception of Captains with 4th year or higher pay. That doens't even include work rules...do you have to call crew scheduling when you finish a trip on reserve? If you lose a day off do you get it restored AND get credited for your flying at 150% for a minimum of 3.75 for that day off lost? You guys go to Canada and the Bahamas right? How much do they pay you to clear customs when you get back to home base? Do you get leg by leg pay? Hows that profit sharing check look? The list goes on and on....

 

[SF340Guy]

No, it has to do with the fact that almost any ExpressJet pilot you ask, would rather see larger equipment at mainline. Why do you think so many people are staying here versus going to CAL? Same reason why there are so many lifers at Comair. They are both great places to work. How many people do you think will stay around RP because it's such a great place to work?

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Well if everyone is staying there then why see the larger planes @ the mailine? So you can use your vote to help feed someone elses family? Yeah, sign me up for that. If you are staying there then get the larger planes, more leverage for your next negotiations.

Now, that said, I am not for the 190 @ RAH, I do want to go to a mainline carrier, so that was the original intention of this thread, was that I would get my PIC time faster so my "Competative Mins" would rise quicker. Bigger planes @ mainline = more jobs for me, and my counterparts with PIC time.

Skyboy, I do have 4th year pay!!! This post was not to say, "Yeah...WOOHOO for me."

 

[SkyBoy1981]

Skyboy, I do have 4th year pay!!! This post was not to say, "Yeah...WOOHOO for me."

Then how the hell are you bragging about such a quick upgrade? You make it sound as though you were hired last year and are due for upgrade training. XJT upgrades are about to drop from 4 years to 2 years overnight once we reach the hiring gap following 9/11. It sounds to me as though I will be a Captain quicker than you were, so perhaps I should be the one bragging.

 

[SF340Guy]

Then how the hell are you bragging about such a quick upgrade? You make it sound as though you were hired last year and are due for upgrade training. XJT upgrades are about to drop from 4 years to 2 years overnight once we reach the hiring gap following 9/11. It sounds to me as though I will be a Captain quicker than you were, so perhaps I should be the one bragging.

I wasn't bragging, actually I was giving information, and then I was forced to defend my pilot group as a whole. BTW looks like I got the name wrong, the most recent upgrade that I now know of was actually the 2/27/04 class guy that is actually in training as of a month or so ago So four months diff, here come the beatings. Sorry for the miss information, I can admit when I am wrong.

 

[Stingman]

As a CHQ/Shuttle America captain, I want to apologize on behalf of the immature postings by a few of our pilots. For whatever reason, a few from our ranks feel the need to post taunting messages on this forum. Quick upgrade? Well congratulations, but please do not brag about it because in the end, no one really cares.

 

[low-key]

My sentiments exactly. No one gives 2 shoots if youre an RJ captain or the head Barista at Starbucks making Double Chai mocha latte swirls with a double shot. IF this is what you have to brag about then you are a loser and unfotunately for me I probably never had the oppurtunity to belittle you as my FO and put you where you belong. You probably need put in your place just like half the other rejects I get to deal with on a regular basis. Get a life ToolBag

 

[BenderGonzales]

Low-Key says, "I probably never had the oppurtunity to belittle you as my FO and put you where you belong. You probably need put in your place just like half the other rejects I get to deal with on a regular basis"

ummm... ok "Sky-King". Sounds like you're probably everybody's favorite Captain too....