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SizzleChest

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I believe Mr. Franklin is mocking the fact that you CHQ boys agreed to fly mainline aircraft for less than $100/hr total for BOTH pilots! A very courteous MDA crew gave us a tour of the 170 in Albany a few days ago and IT IS NOT A **CENSORED**CENSORED** REGIONAL JET!!! Their disgusting pay was forced on them by mainline MEC but you approved yours by a 95% margin! You reap what you sow, but tell that to the United pilots who are losing their jobs to what might as well be third world labor!
 
70 seats mainline jet, huh?
 
Dewey Oxberger said:
I believe Mr. Franklin is mocking the fact that you CHQ boys agreed to fly mainline aircraft for less than $100/hr total for BOTH pilots! A very courteous MDA crew gave us a tour of the 170 in Albany a few days ago and IT IS NOT A **CENSORED**CENSORED** REGIONAL JET!!! Their disgusting pay was forced on them by mainline MEC but you approved yours by a 95% margin! You reap what you sow, but tell that to the United pilots who are losing their jobs to what might as well be third world labor!

Why do you care?
 
DC-9-10, F-28, BAC-111, EMB-170. Same size, the 170 (72 seats) just flies a little farther.
 
I saw my buddy's last pay stub from CHQ and they have already cleared $50K for the year, before taxes.... I think our contract is OK...
 
Why do I care? A year and a half without a contract and why won't the mediator release us? Perhaps because compared to the last two 50 seat contracts signed (I wonder who) he deems our demands unreasonable? And if the CAL scabs sign away scope for a few more bucks, when 2007 rolls around will the resulting 170s go to the longstanding reliable partner (XJT) or the lowest bidder (CHQ)? I think we both know the answer to that...
 
After I flew with one of our EC negotiators, he told me the first thing they were shown by management during talks over the summer was Mesa's contract and told..."This is what we have to compete with". So welcome to club of airlines competing with crappy contracts.

By the way...this thread is about a pic of a new airplane. It always has to degenerate into a pissing contest. I hope you guys do very well.
 
Uh, Dewey are you Express Jet boys off your meds again? See my lengthy replies to the Mike Boyd thread as to WHY we approved our contract by 95 percent. (I'm not gonna type all that crap again). I have stated numerous times that our pay needs to be better, but I voted yes for other valid reasons. Remember that our 7 year old contract actually WAS the bottom for pay rates on this airplane, and we no longer are. Sorry we couldn't go from worst to first for ya.

In the meantime, do what you gotta do. Stop b!tching about the mean old NMB and those sucky CHQ payrates, and shut the place down already (or as soon as the NMB will let you). But until you actually get everything you're demanding, STFU. Show us all that CO can't live without you... that fact won't change regardless of how much I make. Remember you already have in your current contract (brand scope) what we had to fight for (enough scope to keep our own PARENT from using its resources against us).

And finally, yeah I really wish that all Mainline-sized airplanes were still at Mainlines. I include 50-seaters in this. If the guys who were at mainline when I was still a high-schooler had kept ALL jet aircraft on their lists we probably wouldn't be having this discussion. As it is, only NWA has managed to protect their 70-
seat flying; everyone else seems to have given up on it long ago. BTW, when was the last time you saw UA flying even a 100-seat airplane at mainline? Pre-9/11 the 737-200 was the closest they had... Rather than replace mainline lift, the 70-seater Embraers are going to supplement what is mainly a gap in their current capacity range, and one that is, sadly, likely to remain at the regionals evermore.
 
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aewanabe said:
In the meantime, do what you gotta do. Stop b!tching about the mean old NMB and those sucky CHQ payrates, and shut the place down already (or as soon as the NMB will let you). But until you actually get everything you're demanding, STFU.

THAT's the ******* problem.

Because of the bottom-feeding contracts passed by MESA & CHQ recently, the NMB WONT let us shut the place down. We can just sit here and be recessed for another year because all of you spineless wonders did not have the testicular fortitude to raise the bar. Regardless of which union you prefer, pattern bargaining works. If everyone keeps raising the bar, even if it's an inch at a time, everyone comes out ahead. Since the bar has not been raised in over two years now, the NMB thinks we should be happy making what you guys bent over for. When you don't raise the bar, or even come close... You just screw the entire industry over. THANKS!

No, we won't get what we want. Thanks to the recent caving. But at least we will raise the frikking bar. When your pissant contract is up, you can then ride on our coat-tails and get some money for yourselves. IF you have the nads.
 
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Uh, Aviator again you are entirely ignoring the point by b!tching about my pay. Read this slowly: our last contract was ON THE BOTTOM for the Embraer. Below Eagle, Below TSA, Below Mesa's newest contract, even below your current POS. Pattern bargaining works when everyone is within a few percent, but almost never does an individual company go from worst to first. Especially not when its parent company is busily starting-up a non-union competitor with lower pay-rates. But when you jackasses want to bitch and whine about our contract you conveniently ignore that. Eventually the NMB will release you (probably just after the election, no matter who wins) and then you can show us if your balls really match your loud mouth. Personally, I'll be surprised if you get Comair plus anything, but out of any of the carriers you're in the best position to do so. Good luck. Meanwhile, we've got our contract at least out of the friggin' basement, and in the ballpark. If we don't manage to leapfrog everyone in 2008, then you might have a legitimate gripe. Until then, stow it.
 
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