Republic to operate EMB-190s for Midwest

[flyboyzz1]

so who's worse... mesa or republic...will the random posts start saying Republic sucks.

 

[CitationLover]

Before all educational purposes is lost in this thread, what responsibility do the Midwest pilots hold regarding scope? Did the remaining pilots sign off on something to allow this? Was it already in place? I'm not knowledgeable on their contract.

It's simply Midwest management pushing the limit of the Arbitrator's decision regarding the Republic "code-share". Nevermind Republic sells no tickets or details like that.

No sign off. For one year we were threatened with our jobs if we didn't accept $88 CA rates and $37 FO rates. We HELD the LINE unlike a lot of other carriers. And lookie-here, management gets their $88/$37 rates from the Republic lapdogs.

I hope Tim doesn't pay Republic. Then in a fit of rage Bedford tries to kill him and they kill each other like Rocky II. Two birds with one stone.

 

[hockeypilot44]

OK that makes no sense, SWA can just wait for MW to go out of business. Good thing will be RP will be heavy at that point. You guys voted on that contract, and thats why you are undercutters,. Karmas a b!tch.

Southwest can buy a company to get regional feed. It has nothing to do with Midwest going out of business. It has everything to do with pilot scope. That being said, I don't think Southwest will buy Midwest. This is a ploy to get around Delta scope. The next step is to open up a aMidwest 190 base in Atlanta followed by a code-share to all Delta flights.

 

[Abernathy]

Pretty soon we'll be seeing A319s at Skywest. This is what I think has been going on:

Mainline management is sick of paying pilots more money than regional pilots, so they will slowly turn the entire industry over (over several years) into an industry that pays all pilots based on today's regional payscale model. Think about it. Soon enough, Delta management will partner up with some regional, give away all the flying and take a golden parachute, with all the new 757's going to Skywest inc for a $98/hr captain topout, and ALPA will be on the sidelines cutting off its tiny a$$ balls with a dull blade during a road show.

 

[CitationLover]

Southwest can buy a company to get regional feed. It has nothing to do with Midwest going out of business. It has everything to do with pilot scope. That being said, I don't think Southwest will buy Midwest. This is a ploy to get around Delta scope. The next step is to open up a aMidwest 190 base in Atlanta followed by a code-share to all Delta flights.

That's fine with me. Schnedorf warned Moak for the longest time regarding this with his only response being a middle finger back at us.

 

[samballs]

Southwest can buy a company to get regional feed. It has nothing to do with Midwest going out of business. It has everything to do with pilot scope. That being said, I don't think Southwest will buy Midwest. This is a ploy to get around Delta scope. The next step is to open up a aMidwest 190 base in Atlanta followed by a code-share to all Delta flights.

Funny thing is, they don't have to go around DL scope. All they have to do is ask DL pilots to give up scope for a 3.00 pay raise, and they would in a heart beat.

 

[CX880]

Pretty soon we'll be seeing A319s at Skywest. This is what I think has been going on:

Mainline management is sick of paying pilots more money than regional pilots, so they will slowly turn the entire industry over (over several years) into an industry that pays all pilots based on today's regional payscale model. Think about it. Soon enough, Delta management will partner up with some regional, give away all the flying and take a golden parachute, with all the new 757's going to Skywest inc for a $98/hr captain topout, and ALPA will be on the sidelines cutting off its tiny a$$ balls with a dull blade during a road show.

I think Spirit would love to have 60/30 split for their A319 crews. And I believe they don't have scope. Next project for Republic!!!

 

[Paul R. Smith]

Pretty soon we'll be seeing A319s at Skywest. This is what I think has been going on:

Mainline management is sick of paying pilots more money than regional pilots, so they will slowly turn the entire industry over (over several years) into an industry that pays all pilots based on today's regional payscale model. Think about it. Soon enough, Delta management will partner up with some regional, give away all the flying and take a golden parachute, with all the new 757's going to Skywest inc for a $98/hr captain topout, and ALPA will be on the sidelines cutting off its tiny a$$ balls with a dull blade during a road show.

Skywest won't get a319/320s. They will get what will be designed to replace them. The C-series or whatever is in the desgin phase right now.

Welcome aboard Continental connection Flight 8666 operated by Gulfstream Airline's brand new Canadair C-1000 with service from KEWR straight to Hell with a stop in KLAX.

 

[Tarzan]

Welcome aboard Continental connection Flight 8666 operated by Gulfstream Airline's brand new Canadair C-1000 with service from KEWR straight to Hell with a stop in KLAX.

I don't care who ya are.... That there was funny!

 

[Tarzan]

I'm rubber, your glue, ... blah, blah, blah...

We haven't voted for any 190 payscales. Our payscales haven't changed since 2003, when our contract was signed. The pay scales are based on number of seats, not aircraft type. We don't have payscales for a 100 seat aircraft, so if mgmt. wants to have that discussion, they haven't notified any of us. Maybe the union knows something, but the general seniority list sure does not.

Airline Pilot Central has it listed like that improperly.

Republic sucks.

 

[Full of LUV]

Republic Sucks

Republic sucks.

Wow, its like the Pig Virus, first it invades MEH, then poor Mokulele airlines. Do the Republic "family" of airlines have one big seniority list or is each of it's subsidiaries run independently?

 

[Popeye0537]

Republic sucks.

BB has achieved what he set out to do from day one....where have all of you been??

We have been telling you that he wanted out of the 50 seat game and into the 70-100 seat one. It took him all of 5 years to turn Chautauqua from a turboprop feeder to a major player now.

Quit your bitchin about how bad our FO rates are....yeah they suck so does everyone elses.

Just because the engines are under the wings....talk about penis envy

 

[En Mort Main]

The bitterness from the likes of some people on this board is palatable. Instead of pointing fingers and crying over "the good old days at national/major airline" maybe we should move on and improve ourselves and our stations in life. If the good old days were so great why are those airlines not around/or greatly diminished now. Perhaps because they were unsustainable they were not doing it better, faster and/or cheaper than the other guy. This is still a quasi free economy at least for a little longer......

 

[Metro752]

Regionals Suck!

 

[Popeye0537]

Regionals Suck!

On Demand Cargo/Charter Suck!

 

[En Mort Main]

(insert all airline names here) Suck!

 

[BrickTop]

This is the airline industry. We eat our youth and sh!t on our elders.......Unless they can get you an interview.

 

[relief tube]

if this is the future of midwest, then midwest just needs to go tits up and get along with it.

190s at regionals are bull********************, the only ones who dont feel this way are regional lifers and those that haven't got a clue about anything.

 

[CitationLover]

B
Quit your bitchin about how bad our FO rates are....yeah they suck so does everyone elses.

Mine didn't suck at Midwest compared to your and I flew 12 seats less than your 190 FO's will.

Wake up ******************************.

 

[Popeye0537]

Mine didn't suck at Midwest compared to your and I flew 12 seats less than your 190 FO's will.

Wake up ******************************.

Yeah your rates are great....how long did you get to enjoy them until you got put out on the street??

You should have taken airtran's deal, I think your the one who needs to wake up. Take your bitter train elsewhere

 

[Airline Driver]

Sit on the other end and you will have a different take on it sporto. Better not see you complain about Mesa at all. Is Johnny O your hero?

What Makes you think that I have never been on your end Einstein! I was stating a fact, It's business, like it or not! Not my or any other pilots doing. I was not the one who made the decision end of story. Point Blame at Deregulation and today's management.

 

[trainer8]

100 seats will require 3 FAs. JBLU and LCC both operate 99 seats to avoid the 3 FA.

I predict that Republic will operate with 99 seats, with current pay scales.

Can't imagine WH giving the thumbs up to pay another FA.

T8

 

[hockeypilot44]

100 seats will require 3 FAs. JBLU and LCC both operate 99 seats to avoid the 3 FA.

I predict that Republic will operate with 99 seats, with current pay scales.

Can't imagine WH giving the thumbs up to pay another FA.

T8

A 100-seat aircraft requires 2 flight attendants. Learn the FAR's.

 

[JumpersAway]

Erwin Rommel wasn't a fan of his boss either.

Best quote in the history of Flight Info............

 

[trainer8]

A 100-seat aircraft requires 2 flight attendants. Learn the FAR's.

You're right! 101 requires 3 FAs

Oh, I learned them....long time ago. I just forget some of them.

T8

 

[JumpersAway]

Yeah your rates are great....how long did you get to enjoy them until you got put out on the street??

You should have taken airtran's deal, I think your the one who needs to wake up. Take your bitter train elsewhere

The attitude you sport is the exact outlook that is bound to doom our entire life long careers within the regional industry to meak pay and meager gains, at best. You aren't getting it are you- we're losing ground here, and this is a front we are all manning. It doesn't matter where he was, will be, or set out to be- your a$$ is going to eventually be on the line too. however, at least he was able to earn a respectable wage before he got cut. Will you be able to say the same?

 

[BlackPilot628]

Look up definition of a "Yes-man". You are one.

Look up the definition of a man... You are NOT one.

 

[CitationLover]

Look up the definition of a man... You are NOT one.

Last I checked I was.

(insert a "your momma" joke here)

 

[CitationLover]

Yeah your rates are great....how long did you get to enjoy them until you got put out on the street??

You should have taken airtran's deal, I think your the one who needs to wake up. Take your bitter train elsewhere

I'm fine. Talk to our 9yr FO's who are now furloughed wise guy. They made more than most of Republic's CA's.

 

[Peter Sashell]

It's just the new airline model. A name people recognize, ticketes for sale but everything else is done by another company. It's the way of the future as far as domestic flying goes. Not saying it's right but it is the way things look to be going.