Republic (Chautauqua) to fly 170s for Delta

[Bart Simpson]

Got to love the high school drop outs on this board.

Takes one to know one but at least you reached the climax of your life by becoming an FO. Merry Xmas to you.

 

[flyinglow]

also... why isn't anyone ever mad at SkyWest??? is it because they are out West going about their business where nobody bumps into them? They are non-union and fly as Continental Express... but THEY never get called bottom feeders.

Why doesn't anyone fight to get the flying Eagle does as Delta Connection out in Cali? again... they are out West where nobody seems to pay any attention.

Tex

News to me. I didn't realize Eagle flew for Delta????

 

[ProLine4]

I think you guys are missing the point.

CHQ operates the 170, Comair and ASA operate the 700. The 170 looks like a mini airbus on the inside, which offers much greater comfort than the CRJ700.

Not trying to stir the pot or add fuel to the flame, but from a customer standpoint, the 170 offers superior service, even if CHQ's cost structure is a little higher (according to one poster).

Bottom line: 170 offers the comfort passengers demand and in turn they will offer repeat business.

Now, if ASA or Comair gets an aircraft which can go from CVG-Tokyo in 20 minutes, any discomfort will be tolerated. Get the point?

JP, I see what you're saying, but the E170 having a superior cabin arrangement for the pax affects all of the regional jet operators, including CHQ. I realize that you aren't getting any more 145s, but it would affect you and the 100 ERJs CHQ presently flies company-wide.

Not that many passengers pay that much attention beyond if it has props or not, but for those that do, if your "superior 170 service equals return business" theory holds true, people will want to avoid the sub-70 seat EMB family and entire CRJ family.

From a DL standpoint, this would affect all the DCI carriers, including CHQ and their ERJ operation. Back to CHQ, while you do have the 16 170s flying for DL, you would also be affected on the US side of the operation, since MidAtlantic is flying around 22 E170s in contrast to your 145s.

So what's the point? I guess it's that most customers A) aren't that discerning when it comes to their $99 fares, and B) even if frequent flyers harassed our bosses everyday for a year about the quality of the E170, no one has the capital right now, nor does Embraer have the capacity, to start dumping suddenly inferior 50-seat acft in favor of the 170s. Customers demanding an exodus from the current generation of RJs is nothing but some wacko travel reporter's wet dream. Most aircraft are depreciated over at least a 15 to 30 year cycle, so you can guess that the ERJ/CRJ families currently flying will be around for the foreseeable future.

People don't like props, dont like tiny overhead bins, dont like blah blah blah, but you get what you pay for. Heck, I really don't even think its worth listening to them sometimes, because short of everyone getting 777 J class service on all flights, pax at all carriers, be it regional, LCC, or legacy, manage to b!tch about something. All I care about is the right airplane on the right route so I can keep my job....

Merry Christmas and have a cold one for me tonight.

 

[ProLine4]

News to me. I didn't realize Eagle flew for Delta????

Yep, Saabs out of LAX for DL and a whole bunch of others via a codeshare.

 

[FDJ2]

IF ALPA had approved the merger and DAL allowed it,

Stop right there, what makes you think DAL would have allowed it? Has DAL integrated the ASA and CMR lists under one PWA? What in the world makes you think that DAL would ever merge the DAL lists with ASA/CMR under one PWA? If DAL wanted one pilot group, why do you think they spent $3B buying ASA/CMR?

 

[ATR-DRIVR]

I said IF. Did you not get that part?
Oh, you really should use ALL of the quote. Makes more sense really.

 

[FDJ2]

I said IF. Did you not get that part?
Oh, you really should use ALL of the quote. Makes more sense really.

IF, I quoted that part of your statement, but it's the big AND that many choose to ignore.

O.k., here's your quote in it's entirety.

IF ALPA had approved the merger and DAL allowed it, NONE of the mainline guys and gals on furlough now would have been furloughed. It would have been the last 1000+ hired. Those who have been hired at ASA/CMR since 9/11

Notice the big and?

None of your prognostication of what would have happened means anything with that big and hanging out there since DAL, was and is not required to merge lists regardless of the outcome of the PID. You see, the PID does not and never has been binding on management, only PWAs and the law are. Outside of a contractual requirement to merge lists, DAL could care less what an approval of the PID would have meant, since it is not, and has never been, binding on DAL.

Now, take your entire quote, remove the part about DAL willingly allowing a list integration and you'll realize how non sensical your conclusion that a PID would have prevented furloughs is.

 

[flyinglow]

Yep, Saabs out of LAX for DL and a whole bunch of others via a codeshare.

Isn't a codeshare different from flying under the same colors??

 

[ATR-DRIVR]

FDJ2,
There seems to be a misunderstanding somewhere along the line here. I am tired and still have Santa stuff to do so I am not going to try and go find it.
I hope you and your family have a great Christmas and great New Year's.

ATR-DRIVR

 

[doh]

launchpad and drag, nice one finger christmas salute to you. The rest of you don't come unglued. Politics will be played with the flying for a while longer yet. The ASA guys need to go on strike and play some politics back, that's all.

 

[Doberman]

170....one shmeevendy. I don't question that people think it's more passenger friendly...but in comparison to what? There are plenty of big nice planes out there. What people care about most is paying 41$41 for a RT from LAX to JFK.

 

[Doberman]

Make that $41, nice prooooof reading on my part!

 

[i'mbatman]

Alright look, this has gone far enough. Would the Chautauqua pilot who told management and DCI to get the Delta 170 contract just come forward. C'mon...come on out. We know it's you, you can't hide forever.

What a sick jokester this guy....

Ok...Ok....It was me....I sat down with Fred and Brian and just decided to do it b/c we wanted to start some flightinfo wars!

 

[jumppilot]

Isn't a codeshare different from flying under the same colors??

Nope.

Flying your own colors means you fly for your own company...A codeshare means you are a different company providing lift to another airline.

All a codeshare is simply a marketing agreement. Some companies happen to paint their aircraft in the parent company's colors.