kl7741 said:
First and foremost is the pay issue at the Fracs. Recently I spoke with a NetJets Citation X captain (who was also a check airman) that had 18 months seniority and he was only making 35k/year. I was embarrassed for him! I'll admit I don't have the same numbers for a jet captain at the regional that I was familiar with (COEX) but I'd bet it was more than 35k. I do know that a five year CA was at 70k.
With respect to your opinion, keep a few things in perspective.
1. When our contract (pay) was ratified four years ago, we did not have C750s or DA2000s.
2. The pilot you referred would be on the 2nd year captains
pay scale which I know is above 40K. Not including per diem over time and tips etc.
3. Not many Regional pilots and NO Major pilots are Captain within 6 months.
4. Comair’s new contract I believe starts at 21K. THAT is embarrassing.
5. In comparison to your COEX 5 year Capt at 70K, I am at that level at NJA and am fairly close to that. (Even at our old pay scale.) Not including perdiem and tips etc.
Also, the type of airports you fly into with a regional are most likely going to be controlled, as opposed to maybe a high percentage of uncontrolled airports with the fracs. Uncontrolled airports usually mean non-precision approaches and short runways. Therefore, more room for error.
I would say the majority of the time we operate out of controlled fields too. I didn’t go to any uncontrolled airports in my last 7 day tour. (ICT, ASE, SDL, DAL, MDW, SFO, HPN, SLC.....)
Lastly, the regionals have flight attendants on every flight that can deal with the pax. From my experience dealing with pax is an additional duty that many pilots would prefer not to have.
Our Gulfstreams, Falcons, and Boeings do have Flight Attendants.
Although the rest of the fleets do not, what is there to deal with? Usually two or three pax, we greet them and brief them on the flight arrangements and off we go. It’s not like we don an apron and push a service cart down the isle.
From the plethora of former commuter, furloughed major, and military SAM pilots on our roster, the frac life is unanimously better. The pay is behind for now, but the quality of life is untouchable. [Unless you could do this and be home every night

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I continue to meet more and more pilots using the commuters as a stepping stone to NetJets. I talked to three more this week.