Regional Captian Douchebag Syndrome-RCDS

[cushman_500]

ooohh...internet tough guy

 

[Mmmmmm Burritos]

RCDS = little weenie syndrome

 

[say again]

Being a laid-back regional FO doesn't really qualify you for much in my book.

Is your "book" going to get me hired at Southwest, CAL, JetBlue, etc?? I didn't think so, so shut it!!! Besides, I'm not here to live up to your qualifications, whatever they may be. So here's to all the cool, laid-back FO's and CA's out there!!!!:beer:

 

[BigPappa]

Oakumboy,

Contrary to your Avatar you must still be walking on 4 legs!

 

[Rez O. Lewshun]

Ah, now I get it, because you were a weak FO you automatically assume your FO's are weak too.
Yet again, a wise old Captain projecting his personal short-comings onto his FO's. I'm sure what you say is true of some junior FO's. I know it was for me when I first started out. But this attitude of "I'm the thinker, you're just the gear-yanker..." is just pathetic, and egotistical. The Captains I've flown with that appear to have that attitude were among the worst (thinkers, and flyers) I've flown with at any company. Why don't you Captains try to learn a little something from this post instead of belittling the guy/gal sitting next to you who may well have better or equal knowledge, experience, and/or flying skills than you.

Every flight I watch my Captain and decide if I will adopt, or avoid their actions. Thanks to you Captains for helping me know how not to act.

As an FO my life, as well as my certificate, are dependent on the proper decision-making of my Captains, as well as myself. To suggest that we are just sitting over there picking our noses while you make all the tough decisions is self-centered and condescending. If you don't involve your FO in all the deep, intellectual pursuits of your flight, it's your fault, not his.

Bluto,

Sounds like you are ready to upgrade. I'm sure you will do well and will realize the viewpoint from the left....

My response was to the original poster.... a definite attitude problem. It is rare to find a FO that engages the operation from the mental perspective. Most FOs don't consider fuel managment, taxi runway incursions, destination wx, MEL's, etc.... They show up, do the walk around, get the wx and read the checklist.

Nothing from stopping them from engaging themselves in the said above...they just seem fine to read the checklist.... (from memory ) Is it my responsbility to engage the content?

 

[Bluto]

Kerosene and Rez, I think I was being overly sensitive and read too much into both your posts. Sorry for blowing it out of proportion. It sounds like we're all on the same page here. Maybe my wife hasn't been fighting with me enough, I'll talk to her about it.

 

[FlyinScotsman]

I think the original post has been lost, about 3-5 pages in, it was a joke suppose to be funny. It was targeted at the FO's it was funny, we have all flown with idiots, right or left seat. Lighten up a bit. Everybody.

Talk about getting blown out of proportion!!!

 

[Ganja60Heavy]

I think the original post has been lost, about 3-5 pages in, it was a joke suppose to be funny. It was targeted at the FO's it was funny, we have all flown with idiots, right or left seat. Lighten up a bit. Everybody.

Talk about getting blown out of proportion!!!

You're right...I got a total kick out of it....

and the fact that it had so many hits/replies shows we can all relate to how much it sucks to fly with a douchebag.

Most crews are fun to be with and I like this job, but every now and then, RCDS (or RFODS) hits hard! Worse than bird flu!!

 

[no_desk_for_me]

any captain that

complains all the time
ask for atis 200 miles out
reviews his taxi diagram at your base airport before every landing
wants a full bief on the ILS for a visual
Double checks all your math with a calculator
doesnt' like your reading or listining to music
talks about drinking beer on the ovenight and then backs out
does the 10,000 and 18,000 check at exactly those alttitudes every time
always disagrees with your style
ask you to verify everything
Says they are laid back
wants you to slow down way to early
complains about doing 255 under 10
tells you you are high on an aprouch ( a dot high)
or complains about anything else unecissary

is only unconfident in themselves and their ability. They have probably bee in the RJ their hole career and never learned ho to fly. All FO's watch over these people it isn't the little petty things that matter.

 

[mckpickle]

Ok so do you guys feel better now? Now that you have had the chance to whine about your mean captains? The best thing I remember about being an FO was I learned my place. Something that been missing for a few years.

Charlie Namur, a wise and gifted pilot used to say, I've yet to meet an FO who I wouldn't trade for his weight in gas!

 

[acaTerry]

If you annonce over the PA on the descent announcement that the FO is going to be landing the airplane today…..you may have RCDS (I actually heard this one the other day!!)

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I was quite guilty of this in my regional days, but not because I had RCDS. I got tired of what I called "copilot syndrome". You know, pax asking the FO is he was the pilot or just working the radios....I thought I was getting the pax to have a little respect for the guy.

 

[Bluto]

Ok so do you guys feel better now? Now that you have had the chance to whine about your mean captains? The best thing I remember about being an FO was I learned my place. Something that been missing for a few years.

Your place? Are you kidding me? Did you sleep through all those CRM classes? Glad I won't be flying with you pickle. Enjoy your lofty captainhood and remember to keep those FO's in their "place".

 

[pianoman]

any captain that

doesnt' like your reading or listining to music

Sorry, you're not plugging your shiny I-Pod into the ACM hot mic with me. I don't want that crap on the CVR if we screw up. Did you know our company actually had to put out a information letter telling pilots not to watch DVD's or listen to I-Pod's? That's pretty sad.

does the 10,000 and 18,000 check at exactly those alttitudes every time

Sorry, when should I do them? If I forget, feel free to remind me. I'm not going to get pissed. I'll remind you too. That's why there are 2 of us.

is only unconfident in themselves and their ability. They have probably bee in the RJ their hole career and never learned ho to fly. All FO's watch over these people it isn't the little petty things that matter.

Riiiight........you know, most CA's will ease up a little and cut you a little more slack if you give the initial impression of being professional and doing it the right way from the start. If you kick off the trip by being a slack-ass, they probably figure they need to watch you because who knows what else you aren't going to do right.

Not directed personally at you, no desk, just some observations of stuff I've seen.

 

[TraneOfThought]

This is funny!!!! LMAO! But i cant front i dont like flying with egotrippin' captains. The job isnt that deep, sure as a captain you want be sure about your crew's actions but come on dont be a dillweed. Sad part is that captain douchebags were f/o douchebags. I've noticed in aviation either youre cool or your a schmuck no in between.

Hell just relax and lets get this mininum wage and go home and eventually get one with an airline that has sh*tty bebifits and bad work rules. Hoorah!

 

[mckpickle]

Your place? Are you kidding me? Did you sleep through all those CRM classes? Glad I won't be flying with you pickle. Enjoy your lofty captainhood and remember to keep those FO's in their "place".

Ya, I knew my place. I knew that if the CA was flying and ATC called the airport a 2 o'clock, and 10 miles I'd ask the CA beofre calling it in sight. I'd ask the captain if HE wanted the seatbelt sign off. I'd look over at the captain when ATC would ask us if we wanted lower. I wouldn't ask for direct unless asked to. I would ask the captain before accepting a intersection departure or shorter runway. I respected the seat because the old timers I flew with taught me to respect the seat. So ya CO-Captain Bluto, I learned my place.

 

[=w=]

Ya, I knew my place. I knew that if the CA was flying and ATC called the airport a 2 o'clock, and 10 miles I'd ask the CA beofre calling it in sight. I'd ask the captain if HE wanted the seatbelt sign off. I'd look over at the captain when ATC would ask us if we wanted lower. I wouldn't ask for direct unless asked to. I would ask the captain before accepting a intersection departure or shorter runway. I respected the seat because the old timers I flew with taught me to respect the seat. So ya CO-Captain Bluto, I learned my place.

That's not "learning your place", that's called COMMON SENSE. If you really had to learn that, well....

 

[acaTerry]

Pickle,
I have known Bluto as a personal freind for years and can tell you CLEARLY you miss the point he is making.
Besides, you'd be surprised how little "common sense" is out there now with the new wave of regional pilots. They are more concerned about where to plug the iPod, set up the laptop, bang the FA, etc than on learning how to be an airline pilot.

 

[pianoman]

That's not "learning your place", that's called COMMON SENSE. If you really had to learn that, well....

W, you'd think it would be. Unfortunately, there are quite a few out there who don't understand this sort of thing. Like the FO who reached up (on his leg) and turned the seat belt sign off while still climbing without a word. Or the FO who switches the lights you've turned on because "he likes to do it differently".

It comes down to professional courtesy. I'll extend it to you if you do the same.

 

[wmuflyguy]

Quote:
Originally Posted by no_desk_for_me
any captain that

doesnt' like your reading or listining to music

Sorry, you're not plugging your shiny I-Pod into the ACM hot mic with me. I don't want that crap on the CVR if we screw up. Did you know our company actually had to put out a information letter telling pilots not to watch DVD's or listen to I-Pod's? That's pretty sad.

This recently got put into our Ops manual. I wouldn't have thought this was a problem.

 

[Dave Benjamin]

Pickle,

Besides, you'd be surprised how little "common sense" is out there now with the new wave of regional pilots. They are more concerned about where to plug the iPod, set up the laptop, bang the FA, etc than on learning how to be an airline pilot.

Funniest thing I saw recently was a Mesa Dash-8 FO performing his preflight with his backpack on.

I've been fortunate I guess. The vast majority of FO's I've flown with have been great to work with.