Regional Captian Douchebag Syndrome-RCDS

[jehtplane]

What about superpilot F/O's. They have 3+ plus years seniority and think they are being screwed because they havent upgraded yet. They think its not cool to use checklists, request lower altitudes without discussing it, and just constantly bitch about how they can fly better than half the captains out there. This syndrome works both ways.

So true.....

 

[BigPappa]

Okay, Okay,

This post is all about look at me being better than you! Let's go back to basics. In order for the flight to leave that requires a dual crew, guess what: you need to have TWO pilots. Therefore both pilots are important not just the Captain or the FO. Also, if someone fu#ks up (either one) you both take equal risk of loosing your ticket. So do your job and shut the fu#k up (both)!

PS. I have flown the left, the right, and single fighter seat and they all had the same importance to me. None of them was easier than the other.

 

[328dude]

Okay, Okay,

This post is all about look at me being better than you! Let's go back to basics. In order for the flight to leave that requires a dual crew, guess what: you need to have TWO pilots. Therefore both pilots are important not just the Captain or the FO. Also, if someone fu#ks up (either one) you both take equal risk of loosing your ticket. So do your job and shut the fu#k up (both)!

PS. I have flown the left, the right, and single fighter seat and they all had the same importance to me. None of them was easier than the other.

So true.......

 

[KeroseneSnorter]

I think it's unreasonable that belittling FO's is considered acceptable, but if you dare cross the line and suggest that CA's do stupid things too, you get immediately slapped down and told you just don't understand, "Poor, stupid FO, I could explain it to you, but you just wouldn't understand."

I think that you are confusing my posts with some of the others here. I never said anything about belittling an F/O. In fact I never commented on any of the gripes on here except to say that "No one who has served in the left seat would make some of the statements that the F/O's here are making." Also I added that of course there are bad Captains out there.

Other than that I simply stated that things look very different when you are the guy in the left seat. If the simple fact that the Captain has absolute and final authority over the aircraft and crew belittles you as a first officer, well I cannot help you there.

CRM should be used, all crew resources should be used, but in the end if the Captain does not like the way you are doing something and wants you to fly the airplane his way (while abiding by the company SOP's) on that trip........well he is the dude in charge at the present time.

I have been in the right and the left, in big and small airplanes. If the guy in the left seat tries to kill you, it is your job to stop him. If he wants a certian decent profile......well it is also your job to comply with his instructions. Look it up in your SOP's, it is near the very beginning somewhere under the catagory of "Chain of Command"

Currently I am an F/O, I fly the thing the way I think it should be flown. If the PIC does not like it that way, I fly the thing the way he wants it as long as it complies with SOP's and safety. Why?...........Because he is the guy with the name on the release, and as far as the company or FAA is concerened, it is his airplane right up to the point where he starts to screw up, in which case it is still his airplane, but my job to point out that he is screwing up. The only way it becomes "MY" airplane or "MY" leg is when he dies or completly loses it and freaks out endangering the safety of flight.

The good Captains make the trip fun, the bad ones make it a long day, but in the end, it is ALWAYS their airplane. You deal with this and move on to the next day and put his name on your no fly list.

 

[Oakum_Boy]

I have RCDS. I will not let an FO do anything to compromise my ticket or employment status. Don't like it? Too bad.

Contrary to popular belief, there is a reason quality airlines like to hire pilots with multi-crew PIC time. Being a laid-back regional FO doesn't really qualify you for much in my book.

 

[cushman_500]

ooohh...internet tough guy

 

[Mmmmmm Burritos]

RCDS = little weenie syndrome

 

[say again]

Being a laid-back regional FO doesn't really qualify you for much in my book.

Is your "book" going to get me hired at Southwest, CAL, JetBlue, etc?? I didn't think so, so shut it!!! Besides, I'm not here to live up to your qualifications, whatever they may be. So here's to all the cool, laid-back FO's and CA's out there!!!!:beer:

 

[BigPappa]

Oakumboy,

Contrary to your Avatar you must still be walking on 4 legs!

 

[Rez O. Lewshun]

Ah, now I get it, because you were a weak FO you automatically assume your FO's are weak too.
Yet again, a wise old Captain projecting his personal short-comings onto his FO's. I'm sure what you say is true of some junior FO's. I know it was for me when I first started out. But this attitude of "I'm the thinker, you're just the gear-yanker..." is just pathetic, and egotistical. The Captains I've flown with that appear to have that attitude were among the worst (thinkers, and flyers) I've flown with at any company. Why don't you Captains try to learn a little something from this post instead of belittling the guy/gal sitting next to you who may well have better or equal knowledge, experience, and/or flying skills than you.

Every flight I watch my Captain and decide if I will adopt, or avoid their actions. Thanks to you Captains for helping me know how not to act.

As an FO my life, as well as my certificate, are dependent on the proper decision-making of my Captains, as well as myself. To suggest that we are just sitting over there picking our noses while you make all the tough decisions is self-centered and condescending. If you don't involve your FO in all the deep, intellectual pursuits of your flight, it's your fault, not his.

Bluto,

Sounds like you are ready to upgrade. I'm sure you will do well and will realize the viewpoint from the left....

My response was to the original poster.... a definite attitude problem. It is rare to find a FO that engages the operation from the mental perspective. Most FOs don't consider fuel managment, taxi runway incursions, destination wx, MEL's, etc.... They show up, do the walk around, get the wx and read the checklist.

Nothing from stopping them from engaging themselves in the said above...they just seem fine to read the checklist.... (from memory ) Is it my responsbility to engage the content?

 

[Bluto]

Kerosene and Rez, I think I was being overly sensitive and read too much into both your posts. Sorry for blowing it out of proportion. It sounds like we're all on the same page here. Maybe my wife hasn't been fighting with me enough, I'll talk to her about it.

 

[FlyinScotsman]

I think the original post has been lost, about 3-5 pages in, it was a joke suppose to be funny. It was targeted at the FO's it was funny, we have all flown with idiots, right or left seat. Lighten up a bit. Everybody.

Talk about getting blown out of proportion!!!

 

[Ganja60Heavy]

I think the original post has been lost, about 3-5 pages in, it was a joke suppose to be funny. It was targeted at the FO's it was funny, we have all flown with idiots, right or left seat. Lighten up a bit. Everybody.

Talk about getting blown out of proportion!!!

You're right...I got a total kick out of it....

and the fact that it had so many hits/replies shows we can all relate to how much it sucks to fly with a douchebag.

Most crews are fun to be with and I like this job, but every now and then, RCDS (or RFODS) hits hard! Worse than bird flu!!

 

[no_desk_for_me]

any captain that

complains all the time
ask for atis 200 miles out
reviews his taxi diagram at your base airport before every landing
wants a full bief on the ILS for a visual
Double checks all your math with a calculator
doesnt' like your reading or listining to music
talks about drinking beer on the ovenight and then backs out
does the 10,000 and 18,000 check at exactly those alttitudes every time
always disagrees with your style
ask you to verify everything
Says they are laid back
wants you to slow down way to early
complains about doing 255 under 10
tells you you are high on an aprouch ( a dot high)
or complains about anything else unecissary

is only unconfident in themselves and their ability. They have probably bee in the RJ their hole career and never learned ho to fly. All FO's watch over these people it isn't the little petty things that matter.

 

[mckpickle]

Ok so do you guys feel better now? Now that you have had the chance to whine about your mean captains? The best thing I remember about being an FO was I learned my place. Something that been missing for a few years.

Charlie Namur, a wise and gifted pilot used to say, I've yet to meet an FO who I wouldn't trade for his weight in gas!