Quit ALPA Now!

[PCL_128]

Legal settlements typically exclude any further legal action regarding the complaints contained in the original lawsuit. Don't count on any cost recovery.

Again, check your facts. ALPA's case against UAL is not "further action regarding the complaints contained in the original lawsuit." ALPA's suit is in relation to the agreement UAL signed indemnifying ALPA against any legal liability resulting from distributing the pension termination funds.

Furthermore, insurance companies footing part of the bill doesn't make me feel any better.

It should. It's proof that ALPA has been very smart in how they manage risk and protect their members' money. Any other pilots' union would have been bankrupted. Thanks to smart planning by smart attorneys and accountants, the union is still in fine shape and pilots are not at any risk of losing union representation or their money.

 

[sunlitpath]

Why would ALPA agree to be the middle man for a pension allocation decision? This further illustrates their poor judgement, and it exposes their members to enormous financial risks. With all do respect, I don't believe it.

 

[PCL_128]

Because allowing the company to do it probably wouldn't result in a favorable distribution, and trying to negotiate something that complex would take months, if not years. ALPA does the same thing with signing bonuses (retro pay). You get a lump sum, and then you figure out an allocation. Pretty standard.

 

[sunlitpath]

Because allowing the company to do it probably wouldn't result in a favorable distribution, and trying to negotiate something that complex would take months, if not years. ALPA does the same thing with signing bonuses (retro pay). You get a lump sum, and then you figure out an allocation. Pretty standard.

Well, they got 44 million dollars more for United pilots that they may not have to pay for. If ALPA doesn't get investigated for insurance fraud, then it may work out. Getting United to pay for it may be a very long road.

 

[PCL_128]

Insurance fraud? You really don't have a clue, do you?

 

[nethan]

Nice... so he's gone from saying ALPA is throwing away 44 million and they suck to wondering why they'd be the middle man to wondering if they will get investigated for insurance fraud.

Anybody want to start a pool as to what's next?

 

[sunlitpath]

I wonder when ALPA will cease to exist...

 

[Raoul Duke]

Check your facts before rambling incoherently. The settlement is final, but that has nothing to do with ALPA's suit against UAL to enforce the language that requires UAL to pay the settlement. It may take a while, but UAL will likely have to pay the entire settlement amount in the end.

As far as ALPA "eating the bill," the amount that ALPA actually has to pay, as opposed to what the insurance companies will pay, is rather small. ALPA's budget is still balanced for the year and the financial situation is improving.

ALPA will not collect a dime - they will be bringing a lawsuit against United's bankruptcy estate. This is all optics by ALPA to try to cast the blame somewhere else.

 

[Taco Rocket]

I wonder when ALPA will cease to exist...

Probably after the United/Continental merger.

JP and the MEC will be slotted in the top 5%, the rest to fend for themselves like dogs.

"Career Expectations"

 

[sunlitpath]

ALPA will not collect a dime - they will be bringing a lawsuit against United's bankruptcy estate. This is all optics by ALPA to try to cast the blame somewhere else.

That's what I suspected

 

[Speedtape]

That's fine, but ALPA is not above criticism. In fact, they are very deserving of it...

What's your ALPA number?

 

[CopilotDoug]

the union is still in fine shape

And it is the number one priority of the Union to keep it that way. Airlines come and go, but whatever we do, keep the Union alive at all costs.

 

[Salukipilot4590]

FK ALPA, All day, all night...

Well at least SOMEONE will be getting some....


...not so much here...

 

[Scope out RJ's]

ALPA also paid the scabs at the rjdc $600,000! Again, to avoid the award of an outside jurt giving one cent to these losers. The good news for them, is that it went all to their high priced lawyer.

 

[Nevets]

And it is the number one priority of the Union to keep it that way. Airlines come and go, but whatever we do, keep the Union alive at all costs.

Of course its a priority. What other entity has helped make this profession as safe as it is? Airlines come and go but many of the pilots who worked there go to other airlines and ALPA continues to make the industry more safe for them despite the poor decisions of their previous employers.