Question about flowthrough at Compass

[Ridgeback]

Yes.

It is all spelled out in the NWA T/A talking points.

I think you should SPELL IT OUT once Compass is sold!

 

[temcgrew]

Naysayers! History is rife with examples of flowthrough deals which were beneficial and fair to regional pilots. Like uhm...

Turds usually flow down when flushed.

 

[Whydoitry]

Yes and Gordon Bethune use to sign all the Continental Express checks. We too had a flow through. Now it's just better to be a junior FO with a connection than a Captain with experience. And yeah, why would you want to flow up to NWA anyway? Worst mgt/employee relations of any major.

 

[GearDwn]

I do have to admit....who would want to flow to NWA anyway?

I just think this Flow Through is a little different.

Compass doesn't even have their own MEC....they are fully represented by the NWA chapter of ALPA. From what I have heard, the NWA MEC plans on keeping it that way in order to hold a tight leash on Compass.

All of the other Flow Through agreements have gone between MEC's. This seems much more like a "B" scale than anything to me.....

 

[atpcliff]

Hi!

If hired at Compass and you eventually flow up:
Do you get your NWA seniority number when you start at Compass, or when you start at NWA proper???

cliff
YIP

 

[DoinTime]

Hi!

If hired at Compass and you eventually flow up:
Do you get your NWA seniority number when you start at Compass, or when you start at NWA proper???

cliff
YIP

Right now it is uncertain if the "flow thru" will ever happen and if it does what the terms are going to be. Whatever happens you can bet that when they chop up the airline and sell the parts to Mesaba (a'la Mid Atlantic) Compass pilots won't have a pot to piss in.

 

[CRJ_Driver]

I heard that if you flow up, you get a new NWA seniority number at the bottom and will be at year 1 pay.

If your looking to fly for NW, you'd best get in off the street this fall/winter (maybe??). I'd agree with what most guys on here are saying and thats flow thru's historically have never worked.

BUT, if Compass stays as one entity, it seemingly will be a very good carrier especially with ex Indy guys running flight ops and any NW flight ops involvement.

Hi!

If hired at Compass and you eventually flow up:
Do you get your NWA seniority number when you start at Compass, or when you start at NWA proper???

cliff
YIP

 

[dashtrasher]

[BUT, if Compass stays as one entity, it seemingly will be a very good carrier especially with ex Indy guys running flight ops and any NW flight ops involvement


I guess I don't know which ex Indy guys/gal is running Flight Ops, if you did I doubt that you would be making that statement

 

[YourPilotFriend]

Hi!

If hired at Compass and you eventually flow up:
Do you get your NWA seniority number when you start at Compass, or when you start at NWA proper???

cliff
YIP

You get your NWA seniority number when you're arrive on the first day of class for northwest airlines mainline. The time spent at compass does not count towards your nwa seniority. Longevity will be accumulated only by mainline furloughed pilots while they work at compass. If you are a compass new hire, you have a 30 month lock before you can go to NWA, however, at that point you will be free to flow up based on seniority. Anyone hired during that 30 month time frame at NWA mainline will have a seniority number hirer than you at the mainline. Is that clear?

 

[PinnacleDude]

Right now it is uncertain if the "flow thru" will ever happen and if it does what the terms are going to be. Whatever happens you can bet that when they chop up the airline and sell the parts to Mesaba (a'la Mid Atlantic) Compass pilots won't have a pot to piss in.

What he said. Chances of Compass remaining owned by NWA in a few years? 0%

For that matter, chances of Mesaba remaining owned by NWA in a few years? 0%

Chances of senior NWA management scoring serious coin on 1 or 2 IPO's? 100%

 

[Ridgeback]

If NWA was serious about this flow through, new hire Compass pilots would get the NWA senority number first day of class. This is a simple ploy to get high time qualified people right away. Afterall pilots with 8 plus years are leaving mesaba to go there. Also lots of Air Wisconsin pilots who live in Appleton and tired of commuting.

 

[DoinTime]

Also lots of Air Wisconsin pilots who live in Appleton and tired of commuting.

I didn't know Compass had a ATW base.

 

[ImbracableCrunk]

I didn't know Compass had a ATW base.

Hmmmmmm. Something tells me you know they don't. . . .

 

[Waylon]

This is my take on the future of Compass. XJ is working the dispatch, maintance and, ground work for Compass. Which I think puts Compass in a good position to be spun off before XJ. If NWA was to sell XJ, who would do all that work for Compass, and look at the cost NWA would take on getting all of those items started on there own. Bottom line it would cut into there profits when they are sold. That is why everybody was saying Compass would never happen because of the cost of starting an airline. My bet is Brian Bedford will buy them, and say goodbye to the flowthrough.

 

[GearDwn]

XJ is NOT working Compass Dispatch, they have their own.
XJ is not working Compass MX, they have their own.
Ground on the CRJ is being worked by Xj, but with the E-175 will be worked by NWA mainline.