Question about flowthrough at Compass

[i fly boxes]

Here is a scenario for you. Person A gets hired at Compass tomorrow as a captain. Person B gets hired off the street at NWA next year. 2 years from now, Person A wants to flow up to NWA. Who has the better Seniority at NWA, in other words, if you are hired at Compass, are you given a NWA seniority number and/or date. I know that when you start at NWA you make first year pay, but I wasnt sure about the seniority.
thanks

 

[CoAlpha]

as far as i know there is NO flow for he compas guys

 

[i fly boxes]

as far as i know there is NO flow for he compas guys

then you dont know much

 

[CoAlpha]

lets see it then, im sure its as great at the flow that alg,pdt, and psa have

 

[YourPilotFriend]

You are locked into compass for 30 months without seniority at mainline until you arrive on the first day of mainline class. So in other words you are better off staying at your current regional then getting hired by mainline. Compass is for FO's at regionals looking to get back to one of the domiciles as captain. Don't go there expecting to get to NWA mainline, it's not going to go very well for you.

The only thing you will "flowthrough" at compass is a big pile of poopy.

 

[CitationUltra]

Flow

Flow-up means seniority at NWA by date-of-hire.

 

[Boris Badenov]

Naysayers! History is rife with examples of flowthrough deals which were beneficial and fair to regional pilots. Like uhm...

 

[flyboyike]

Naysayers! History is rife with examples of flowthrough deals which were beneficial and fair to regional pilots. Like uhm...

Excellent point. Seriously, though, can anyone name an example of a flow-through/up that actually took place.

 

[CRJ_Driver]

The only one that I readily could tell you that ultimately seemed to work is XJT to CAL.

Notice all the disclaimer words I used though like "readily", "ultimately", and "seemed."

 

[BuckMurdock1]

Perhaps a more fundamental question is prudent here: why in the world would you want to flow-up to NWA?

 

[Thedude]

Then again assuming that Compass will still be around in 30 months is a giant leap

 

[Flyer1015]

It worked for Eagle, surely it'll work for Compass...

 

[Ridgeback]

For those going only to Compass for the NWA number had better take a goo hard look at the facts.

1. Neil Cohen is in charge at Compass and Mesaba
2. Neil Cohen was the guy that built Mid Atlantic.
3. he used the same planes E170 series.
4. Same terms in Compass contract as in Mid Atlantic, Can be sold after 10 aircraft or 2 years
5. MidAtlantic was sold as ten A/C
6. Furloughed US Air guys got a stable to the Republic list


Ask yourself this? What happens after NWA sells off Compass to whoever...what happens to your number....Oh ya you were never given one, and now that your no longer a subsidiary of NWA you'll never get one. I think it's a bad deal...history will repeat itself

 

[atpcliff]

Hi!

Do you get an NWA seniority number when you join Compass, or when you start at NWA after Compass???

cliff
LRD

 

[naglasair1]

I agree with "The Dude" on this one.

 

[JPAustin]

Wasn't Mesaba supposed to have flow-up negotiations in 97'... and 98'... and any other year where the idea was thrown onto the table by NWA as a bone?
Unless Compass is filled with furloughed NWA guys, I don't really see a flow-up with any meat to it actually happening.

 

[GearDwn]

its a done deal. There is no "guessing" as to "if" it will ever happen.

The NWA pilots VOTED Compass AND the Flo-Through into their contract.

Compass interviews are done by NWA pilots.
The current Compass pilots/management/fa's/instructers are paid on a NWA paycheck stub.

next subject..............

 

[JPAustin]

its a done deal. There is no "guessing" as to "if" it will ever happen.

The NWA pilots VOTED Compass AND the Flo-Through into their contract.

Compass interviews are done by NWA pilots.
The current Compass pilots/management/fa's/instructers are paid on a NWA paycheck stub.

next subject..............

Not saying you are wrong, but do you have proof of this?

 

[GearDwn]

Yes.

It is all spelled out in the NWA T/A talking points.

 

[JPAustin]

Yes.

It is all spelled out in the NWA T/A talking points.

Cool, is that public info? Where can I see it?