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Jet_Driver

"There I was...."
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So, tell me.... I hear there is a real mean, nasty, psycho Captain on the CRJ in ORD flying for Eagle. I've heard a lot about him. It sounds to me like he is imfamous, and not for good reasons. I won't mention his name, but his initials are H.P. Does this ring a bell with anyone? If so do you have any horror stories of flying with him? I am wondering if anyone on here has any first hand accounts with this guy. If so, share them with us please. It might be theraputic for F/Os who think they're the only one.
 
Having a bad month with this guy? :D
 
Negative, just a curious flier. I've only heard rumors on a few overnights from some Eagle crews. I would love to hear something from someone who has actually flown with this guy so as to shed light on the rumors I've heard. He sounds like one for the record books. Have you flown with him?
 
Jet_Driver said:
Have you flown with him?

Nah, I work for Pinnacle so I haven't had the joys of flying with this guy. Every airline has a couple of them though.
 
It's a bell curve, at any airline, just like any other segment of society. A small percentage are complete pyscho weirdos, the largest part is just regular guys who have good days and bad days, and a small percent are completely nice, great people to work with anytime.
 
We had a Captain at CHQ in the mid-90s who was somewhat odd. CRM was a complete mystery to him. He would often stand up in the cockpit (SF340) and peek out the peep-hole to watch the flight attendant and make sure that she was doing her job. He cancelled IFR, dropped under the TCA, and popped up VFR with Newark tower one-day when everyone else was holding.

...and I wasn't there, but I heard that the rampers in Roanoke (or was it Lynchberg) had him trapped in the airplane and threatened to beat the @#$% out of him if he stepped on the ramp.

Interesting fellow....

At US Airways there was a DC9 Captain whose name was written EVERYWHERE. On the back of chart clips, in the bathroom, on the dome-light, on the crew-bag-racks. "Jim ____ Sucks" it said.

He did.

Every company has one.

Oh...and here's something funny I just heard the other day. If you dont think your company has one... or you cant figure out who it is, you might have to look in the mirror. ;)
 
When I was at ExpressJet I heard of an ATR Capt. that would strip down all the way when he flew, with nothin on but his boots. He had a thing about, did it all the time and everyone knew it. Someone told me he also did it on an overnight once at a local bar, guy didn't like wearing clothes I guess. I believe he's at Cal now and probably stays buttoned up I'm sure. This business was more fun before 9/11. :D
 
JetMonkey said:
When I was at ExpressJet I heard of an ATR Capt. that would strip down all the way when he flew, with nothin on but his boots. He had a thing about, did it all the time and everyone knew it. Someone told me he also did it on an overnight once at a local bar, guy didn't like wearing clothes I guess. I believe he's at Cal now and probably stays buttoned up I'm sure. This business was more fun before 9/11. :D
I wouldn't call sitting next to a naked dude for 3 hours "fun", but hey, whatever yanks your crank! :eek:
 
The psycho captain to whom you are referring has quite a reputation. However his reputation stems from the 16 year contract that Eagle agreed to. He was the MEC chairman at the time and he was very much for that agreement. Most of the eagle guys cannot stand him for that. He is probabally an O.K. pilot (meaning he is probabally safe and wont kill anyone, and is not a problem case for the company), but most guys cannot stand him for his actions on the MEC.
 
Actually he's not an o.k. pilot. I've had buddies fly with him. He will start off questioning your pilot skills before you push back from the gate. It goes downhill from there.
 
JetMonkey said:
When I was at ExpressJet I heard of an ATR Capt. that would strip down all the way when he flew, with nothin on but his boots. He had a thing about, did it all the time and everyone knew it. Someone told me he also did it on an overnight once at a local bar, guy didn't like wearing clothes I guess. I believe he's at Cal now and probably stays buttoned up I'm sure. This business was more fun before 9/11. :D

Ya mean Pineo!!!!:D:D:D He used to fly the DC-3 and he was NOT nekid! He always wore his tie!!! ANd it wasn't once at a local bar....I think he wore clothes ONCE at a local bar:D. I believe his greatest feats were streaking company sponsored parties. I've met him several times commuting to the northeast. A great guy....one of the legends.

Ahhh the good old days..

BTW didn't everyone cancel IFR and show up at EWR VFR when they were holding? You might have to hold at 1500 over the statue of leberty of the verazano but you always got in!
 
How many of you have an alien at your company.....:P
 
jetexas said:
H.P. has retired

Then he retired in the last month. A buddy just flew with him.
 
Let me tell you, there is more than just one psycho captain at Eagle. I think we have just a few more than the average 5% other airlines have!
 
HP did not retire or was the MEC chairman, i think he is prior (;-)) bizex and is a current CRJ CA.

he is definitely not one that is fun to fly with (which is boggling considering he is a nice guy in the lounge), however when you fly watch out! every FO in ORD has HP stories and loves to tell them. the best stories though are the flight attendant stories, they are doozies. most people consider dropping or calling in sick, even the crew schedulers know of HP and tell you when you ask who you're flying with "well it's not HP".

here's a couple of direct quotes:

"When i tell you to do something, do it!!"

"When i ask you to do something it is not a request, but a command!"
 
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HP did in fact retire a couple of months ago, but he was on the emj in dfw when he retired. I am not sure who the crj captain is, I don't know many of those guys in ord.
 
OPECJet said:
How many of you have an alien at your company.....:P


I am a "legal alien," does it count? :D

Buck
 
CitationLover said:
HP did not retire or was the MEC chairman, i think he is prior (;-)) bizex and is a current CRJ CA.

he is definitely not one that is fun to fly with (which is boggling considering he is a nice guy in the lounge), however when you fly watch out! every FO in ORD has HP stories and loves to tell them. the best stories though are the flight attendant stories, they are doozies. most people consider dropping or calling in sick, even the crew schedulers know of HP and tell you when you ask who you're flying with "well it's not HP".

here's a couple of direct quotes:

"When i tell you to do something, do it!!"

"When i ask you to do something it is not a request, but a command!"

What's up with these guys? Nice in the lounge but a real tyrant in the cockpit? I've flown with the type. I have always felt they are hiding something. Fears,.. they know they are in over their heads? Afraid to lose control because they lack confidence in themselves or abilities (or lack thereof)? Running a kiddee porn ring on days off?. Luckily there are not too many of these guys like that in my experience. Nice in the lounge, tyrant in the cockpit and rude/sh*thead to the FA,...then on the overnight "Hey...wanna go get some beers"? ..(*yeah right, ___ you buddy!*)
 
There's a guy at Mesa who is a complete safety hazard in the cockpit. Company has him floated from base to base and ithink he's in BNA now. J. L. are his initials. Almost every F.O. refused to fly with his in Philly, people calling out sick, etc. Told an FO to sit over there and be quiet, this is my ship. I have the radios and controls, sit on your hands. Also called an F.O. the N word, he was shipped to IAD where he only lasted 2 bids now in BNA. Calls a lady pilot a C**T. Old school and former CCAir guy but a total nutcase.
 
Mamma said there would be days like this....

Well, this has been interesting. H.P. does get his name around. H.P. could be any creep at any airline. The point I was trying to make about H.P. or any creep at any other airline is that most green, wet-behind-the-ear F/O's on probation don't have any courage to do what needs to be done. remember being asked in the interview "What would you do with a Captain who goes below minimums on an approach in IMC." Of course you gave the proper canned response you were told to give to that question. The problem isn't so easy when you're going mach .82+ at FL390 with a psycho and you are responsible for 70 souls on board. Are you going to do the right thing then?
I learned something I want to share with you all, I flew with an H.P. type Capt. once and he pushed the aircraft out of limitations. He wanted to climb to FL410 when the a/c was 4,000lbs too heavy. We were climbing at 200fpm losing airspeed and ended up 12knots below Vt and WAY below the green bar (that's 1.3 X stall speed in case you didn't know) I gave the Capt. the canned challenge we're taught to say, I questioned the capt, but did I do anyting about it? No. I should have told ATC we are decsending to FLXX0 due to turbulence or something like that. I cowerd back for fear of the guy in the left seat. Wrong thing to do.
What is the lesson to learn? Think of the people in the back first, your ticket second, and the psycho in the left seat last. Then, call pro standards immediately after block in. Commit to never flying with the guy again. I know a lot of you guys are on probation and you're afraid of having a bad mark. That should be your last concern. The chances are pretty high that pro standards and management have had conversations about this guy. They want to get rid of him too, but can't unless they have enough 'dirt' on him. This guy is protected by the same union that you are. He has protection up until the point where the union is tired of listening to stories from F/Os and Flight attendants. Another thing, don't be afraid of walking off the plane. Nothing gets fixed if you "tough it" for that one extra turn with these guys. Its kind of like leaving the gate wihout catering or lav service because you're in a hurry. If you do that, then you've given catering and lav service an excuse to ignore the call. Problems don't get fixed when you give in. Complain to the union enough times, and he won't have union protection. So, don't worry they are going to give you the benefit of the doubt when it comes to guys like this. The more people who call pro standards or refuse to fly with these guys, the sooner they will be removed from flying status and we can get on with business instead of talking about H.P. or other psychos. Its entertaining, yes, but like I said in my first thread, this guy is a statistic just waiting to happen. Lets take some responsibility to make sure he doesn't. Our indusry can't handle any bad marks caused by the H.P.'s out there with CRM and ego problems. They are usually nice in the crew lounge and jerks in the cockpit because they are hiding behind their own insecurities. They are a danger to themselves and everyone around them.

Take your self respect and your standard of safety with you to the cockpit. You aren't an F/O, you're a Captain in training. You don't have to fly with H.P.
 
Just curious...does psycho mean being a semi-stickler for the rules and company policy manual or does it mean extra curricular stuff, like nose picking and evac-u-jacks in the cockpit?
 
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It's easy to tell someone on probation to wisen up and walk off a plane or call in fatigued, but it's another thing entirely when your job is on the line. Literally.

Not to mention when one Eagle F.O. did decide to return to the gate, look what happened. This board got a thread started on it, and he got suspended pending review. Try that as a probie. It's a put-up and shut-up for the first year, unless safety is at stake, and you have the documentation to prove it.
 
NuGuy said:
I've heard that they tend to live in Virginia and fly with nomex gloves...

Nu
AHHHH YES! And he own the LYH airport, or at least thats where he keeps his spaceship!
 
Well said FN FAL. You are not driving a bus here. Guys like HP have no business being in the cockpit. I wish everyone had the courage to stand up and do the right thing. Unfortunatley, too many pilots on probations have to put their families first and suffer on, if it isn't a safety concern.
 
Didn't know he kept his ship at LYH.

That explains those bright lights I see on final there every once and a while. I thought they were trains....

If you want to get on his good side, accept an immediate takeoff clearance before he gets his gloves on. He loves that....:)
 
I flew with HP once, will never do it again. HP and TB(former MEC chair) are different people. HP is a current CRJ CA in Ord.
 
Relic01 said:
There's a guy at Mesa who is a complete safety hazard in the cockpit. Company has him floated from base to base and ithink he's in BNA now. J. L. are his initials. Almost every F.O. refused to fly with his in Philly, people calling out sick, etc. Told an FO to sit over there and be quiet, this is my ship. I have the radios and controls, sit on your hands. Also called an F.O. the N word, he was shipped to IAD where he only lasted 2 bids now in BNA. Calls a lady pilot a C**T. Old school and former CCAir guy but a total nutcase.

Mesa has a BNA base? For what carrier? News to me...

What are all your bases?

thx,
73
 

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