Possible New Fall Staffing Solution at ASA

[screamingpax]

Your avatar is the coolest thing since sliced bread and the other side of the pillow.

I am going to take that image and print it onto stickers....and then put it on my flight kit.

Could not agree more!!

 

[Texx]

You are kidding, right? RIGHT?!?!?!

If you were sincere when you posted this, you are part of the problem, and, frankly, a large part of the reason why racism still exists today.

By posting this, you are overtly supporting hiring decisions based solely off of skin color, or possibly, gender.

Wake up, pal. It's 2010.

If you heard her talk in the crew lounge she did too.

 

[Abernathy]

Is she black? I haven't seen one black female DAL pilot before so to me the hiring is justified if that is the case. CAL on the other hand has quite a few black female FOs

It's not the burden of an airline to disproportionately represent an underrepresented group of people behind the controls of it's aircraft. Hiring the most qualified and safe applicants is, however, the burden of an airline.

Point being, you haven't seen one black female pilot at DAL because there are hardly any black female pilots in existence. So when one pops up, Delta should toss aside a stack of highly qualified applicants just so they can "nab her"? Why? So they can say "hey look how diverse we are!" What does that accomplish? Who is that going to impress? Passengers? Because when passengers get onto an aircraft, in the back of their mind, they don't care what color their pilots are. Black, white, asian, pacific, whatever, they just care that they are competent.

Delta probably doesn't have any black female bicurious three-toed pilots, either. They better find one quick.

 

[JoeMerchant]

It's not the burden of an airline to disproportionately represent an underrepresented group of people behind the controls of it's aircraft. Hiring the most qualified and safe applicants is, however, the burden of an airline.

Point being, you haven't seen one black female pilot at DAL because there are hardly any black female pilots in existence. So when one pops up, Delta should toss aside a stack of highly qualified applicants just so they can "nab her"? Why? So they can say "hey look how diverse we are!" What does that accomplish? Who is that going to impress? Passengers? Because when passengers get onto an aircraft, in the back of their mind, they don't care what color their pilots are. Black, white, asian, pacific, whatever, they just care that they are competent.

Delta probably doesn't have any black female bicurious three-toed pilots, either. They better find one quick.

Exactly!

 

[LazyLightnin']

Is she black? I haven't seen one black female DAL pilot before so to me the hiring is justified if that is the case. CAL on the other hand has quite a few black female FOs

The more of them Delta has before you get an interview there, the less likely you'll be hired. Keep that in mind.

 

[Bus-Driver]

Bypassing??? I thought if they didn't come back they were done. I agree WTF is the union doing bending over backwards for the company. 3 runs in like 2 weeks??? worthless, sure I'll be working this Christmas haven't worked one in 8 years.

Take this from a skywester that learned to beat the PBS system and hasn't worked a christmas in 4 years. Just don't bid. I quit bidding at all a long time ago, pbs gets confused and doesnt know what to take away from me to replace with a "company need". I end up with better stuff than I could have asked for.

 

[Gr82Aviate]

It's not the burden of an airline to disproportionately represent an underrepresented group of people behind the controls of it's aircraft. Hiring the most qualified and safe applicants is, however, the burden of an airline.

Point being, you haven't seen one black female pilot at DAL because there are hardly any black female pilots in existence. So when one pops up, Delta should toss aside a stack of highly qualified applicants just so they can "nab her"? Why? So they can say "hey look how diverse we are!" What does that accomplish? Who is that going to impress? Passengers? Because when passengers get onto an aircraft, in the back of their mind, they don't care what color their pilots are. Black, white, asian, pacific, whatever, they just care that they are competent.

Delta probably doesn't have any black female bicurious three-toed pilots, either. They better find one quick.

You nailed it!!! Too bad our government would rather have the right boxes checked off, than worry about silly things like qualifications and safety!!!!!

 

[at7driver]

Take this from a skywester that learned to beat the PBS system and hasn't worked a christmas in 4 years. Just don't bid. I quit bidding at all a long time ago, pbs gets confused and doesnt know what to take away from me to replace with a "company need". I end up with better stuff than I could have asked for.

haha, thanks for the tip.

 

[ASA_Aviator]

You nailed it!!! Too bad our government would rather have the right boxes checked off, than worry about silly things like qualifications and safety!!!!!

That isn't how it works. All things being equal, they may choose a "diversity candidate." That means they are just as qualified as you are. Delta has no shortage of applications, and they won't hire someone who isn't good enough to make it through training, even if they are a diversity candidate.

 

[buscap]

Every airline has hired pilots they wish they hadn't for any number of the wrong reasons, such as; they knew the right people, they were related to the right people, deep pocket financed flight time with no valuable experience, they interviewed and tested well due to massive interview prep giving a false impression of actual skills, they really really looked the part and sold themselves well, or maybe they came from the military so they must be great, right?

So what's the harm in having one more stupid reason to hire someone? God knows none of us would want to do away with many of the above listed reasons, depending on which one helps us out.

At least this reason is based on good intentions, wether rightly executed or not, meant to correct the undeniable economic disparities in our society. It takes more than speeches by the formerly jive talking Bill Cosby to fix things. And yes, I know "two wrongs don't make a right", but we got to start somewhere.

And I do apologize for contributing to the thread hijack.

 

[777forever]

There are A LOT of people pissed off and bitter about the low time no pic pilots just hired. With Delta's posted mins being 1200TT, they basically are saying they'll hire whoever they want regardless of experience level. This tells me that by far, Networking is the most important thing you can do to advance your career. You can have five billion hours of PIC and a squeaky clean training record, but if you don't know anybody, you're just another face in the crowd. Doesn't sound fair but hell, life isn't fair. Find the nearest good ole boys club near you and try to fit in.

Who you know will get you there, what you know will keep you there.

 

[Dannone]

Just spoke to Delta pilots on the jumpseat the other day who said they have had several pilots not make it through training. I know the regionals had to bend over backwards to get some through in the last round. Delta gonna do the same??? I ran into one new hire who was on like sim twenty eight after being fired once and could not do a v one cut still even though it was expected. That person is now flying the line. No way that person makes it through training after the new media hype!!! Not saying "that person" is female : ).

 

[LazyLightnin']

Just spoke to Delta pilots on the jumpseat the other day who said they have had several pilots not make it through training. I know the regionals had to bend over backwards to get some through in the last round. Delta gonna do the same??? I ran into one new hire who was on like sim twenty eight after being fired once and could not do a v one cut still even though it was expected. That person is now flying the line. No way that person makes it through training after the new media hype!!! Not saying "that person" is female : ).

I know of a couple of female pilots who have actually started crying in the cockpit..... Crying... in the cockpit... because they're scared...

That makes you feel good.

 

[asayankee]

Are you crying? There's no crying in baseball.......

 

[Lynxman]

I know of a couple of female pilots who have actually started crying in the cockpit..... Crying... in the cockpit... because they're scared...

That makes you feel good.

WTF seriously? I've heard of completely shutting down and just not flying anymore, but never crying.

 

[CFI2766]

I had a Captain cry on my once. She was having a reallly bad day.

 

[buscap]

I'll take a smokin hot dummass who can't fly her way out of a wet paper bag, over some Oompa-Loompa looking flying wiz.

The smokin one may kill me, but at least I'll die happy!!!

 

[LazyLightnin']

Extensions tomorrow out the wazoo! Have fun folks.

 

[asayankee]

This company has s rewed the pooch BIG TIME.....WOW.

 

[shamrock]

I'll take a smokin hot dummass who can't fly her way out of a wet paper bag, over some Oompa-Loompa looking flying wiz.

Hey, let's leave Pickin' Pete out of this...