Possible New Fall Staffing Solution at ASA

[sswanson]

steven.prescott@alpa.org,
richard.viars@alpa.org,
andy.hale@alpa.org,
ken.armstrong@alpa.org

Heres who needs to hear from each of use to make it easy for you all.

 

[atlcrjdriver]

~30 furloughs are bypassing, Fall flight hours are not dropping off.

Solution: Rush PBS in by the end of August so ASA don't have to hire or run as many upgrades.

We all lost relativity by voting in PBS.

While I agree that we are short how does delaying PBS help the pilot group? PBS was voted for by a vast majority of the pilot group and want it implemented ASAP. As long as the pilot trainers are there to aid those that need it why delay unnecessarily?

 

[SPDBRD747400]

While I agree that we are short how does delaying PBS help the pilot group? PBS was voted for by a vast majority of the pilot group and want it implemented ASAP. As long as the pilot trainers are there to aid those that need it why delay unnecessarily?

Could it have been rigged? Everyone I talk to say they voted NO...I did (No) is everyone else lying?

 

[atlcrjdriver]

Could it have been rigged? Everyone I talk to say they voted NO...I did (No) is everyone else lying?

Have you talked to all ~1670 pilots? Apparently not as I voted yes and I am not alone by a long shot.

 

[Freebrd]

haha and now that worm sh is asking for voluntary vacation give backs from now til august, you fools. ct and sh should be fired for our manning situation

 

[atlcrjdriver]

haha and now that worm sh is asking for voluntary vacation give backs from now til august, you fools. ct and sh should be fired for our manning situation

They did the same thing a few months ago and recalled all the furloughs. CT fell on his sword and took responsibility for his mistake. Until you have sat in his seat you are tossing darts in the dark. While I agree that we are short and needed to be hiring months ago OUR PBS system shouldn't be used as some form of anti mgnt pawn. The majority of our group voted this system in and want it implemented ASAP.

 

[JoeMerchant]

Let's just implement PBS and move on....No sense dragging it out any longer...Better now than the holiday months....

 

[ASA_Aviator]

Good news is that I have heard of 3 junior FO girls getting hired at Delta. Such a joke!!! The whole industry is fubar!!!

Do you know any of them? Didn't think so. What is wrong with this industry is everyone being worried about everyone else's business. "Mommy mommy, she got hired before I did! Whaaaaaaaa!"

 

[Cpt Oveur]

You will be awarded a schedule in September pursuant to the way you have bid for one this month, PBS will be used to bid your actual schedule for October.

 

[maxcackel]

Do you know any of them? Didn't think so. What is wrong with this industry is everyone being worried about everyone else's business. "Mommy mommy, she got hired before I did! Whaaaaaaaa!"

I know one of them, and I'm still trying to understand why Big D would hire someone with low time/no PIC with no contacts over all the more qualified females or males for that matter. I know it's their playground just wondering why the change. I would not be human if I said I was not a little jealous and confused over it when you have waited patiently then get bypassed by someone 4-5 years junior. Last time they hired they were saying the magic number for ASA people was 500 pic to get the call. Staying positive I'll get my turn.

 

[Cpt Oveur]

I know one of them, and I'm still trying to understand why Big D would hire someone with low time/no PIC with no contacts over all the more qualified females or males for that matter. I know it's their playground just wondering why the change. I would not be human if I said I was not a little jealous and confused over it when you have waited patiently then get bypassed by someone 4-5 years junior. Last time they hired they were saying the magic number for ASA people was 500 pic to get the call. Staying positive I'll get my turn.

Your seniority at ASA should only matter at ASA. Best of luck at your interview!

 

[Dannone]

I know this, I have been at ASA for ten years and put in my time and to see someone who hasn't get hired is annoying!! Why do I have to know her??? The only reason that stuff happens is because they are filling a quota. I don't even have my stuff in with Delta but I know plenty of people that are way more qualifed than her that do, or have been turned down. Management is hiring unqualified people at regionals and at majors was the point not just at regionals. Some of these girls are barely qualified for regionals, never mind moving on!!!

 

[maxcackel]

Ref Capt Oveur. Your right about that, just honest that I was surprised by it. Interesting how this business is in constant change. And no I'm not crying or bitter over it so don't even start. LOL

 

[777forever]

I know one of them, and I'm still trying to understand why Big D would hire someone with low time/no PIC with no contacts over all the more qualified females or males for that matter. I know it's their playground just wondering why the change. I would not be human if I said I was not a little jealous and confused over it when you have waited patiently then get bypassed by someone 4-5 years junior. Last time they hired they were saying the magic number for ASA people was 500 pic to get the call. Staying positive I'll get my turn.

Is she black? I haven't seen one black female DAL pilot before so to me the hiring is justified if that is the case. CAL on the other hand has quite a few black female FOs

 

[LazyLightnin']

Is she black? I haven't seen one black female DAL pilot before so to me the hiring is justified if that is the case. CAL on the other hand has quite a few black female FOs

Isn't that racist?! You should hire based on qualifications, not because "we don't have one of those!".

 

[PBRstreetgang]

Wish I could vote no on our current association

Look in the mirror, that is your association, how ever it's organized. How many meetings have you gone to in the last year, and did you make yourself heard? If not STFU, you are the problem, ALPA or whatever is in place, are your tools to effect change or stop bad change, you let the senior MEC guys make policy because you are too busy playin World of Warcraft, you at least get a high score in the WoW group.
PBR

 

[CFI2766]

Is she black? I haven't seen one black female DAL pilot before so to me the hiring is justified if that is the case. CAL on the other hand has quite a few black female FOs

You are kidding, right? RIGHT?!?!?!

If you were sincere when you posted this, you are part of the problem, and, frankly, a large part of the reason why racism still exists today.

By posting this, you are overtly supporting hiring decisions based solely off of skin color, or possibly, gender.

Wake up, pal. It's 2010.

 

[JumpersAway]

There will be plenty of DAL hiring, as I understand it. The process really just started, so be patient. If you're interested, I'm sure the opportunity will present itself. From what I understand, it's going to spool up and carry well into next year. With the flow through in question, it will likely open up the doors to more applicants, and interviews.

 

[maxcackel]

There will be plenty of DAL hiring, as I understand it. The process really just started, so be patient. If you're interested, I'm sure the opportunity will present itself. From what I understand, it's going to spool up and carry well into next year. With the flow through in question, it will likely open up the doors to more applicants, and interviews.

Sounds good to me, looking forward to the chance. Good luck to us all.

 

[JoeMerchant]

There will be plenty of DAL hiring, as I understand it. The process really just started, so be patient. If you're interested, I'm sure the opportunity will present itself. From what I understand, it's going to spool up and carry well into next year. With the flow through in question, it will likely open up the doors to more applicants, and interviews.

I'm not interested in applying to or working for Delta....However different standards for people based on the color of their skin or their sex is wrong plain and simple. Political correctness and affirmative action quotas simply continue to make race an issue.

Lowering standards for minority and female pilots is an insult to those who made it without affirmative action.

 

[goahead]

Look in the mirror, that is your association, how ever it's organized. How many meetings have you gone to in the last year, and did you make yourself heard? If not STFU, you are the problem, ALPA or whatever is in place, are your tools to effect change or stop bad change, you let the senior MEC guys make policy because you are too busy playin World of Warcraft, you at least get a high score in the WoW group.
PBR

Considering I have no idea what the hell wow is other than weight on wheels you can GFYourself. I've been to many meetings and my problem lies with the things that are told to us with no explanation. Three bids in one month with made up lines, your cool w/that.

 

[Data]

Considering I have no idea what the hell wow is other than weight on wheels you can GFYourself.

No better way to educate yourself than to watch the video that says it all. 32.33, repeating of course, percent you'll understand (1:25 in the video)...

At least I got chicken!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vbwRC0RyphI

 

[LazyLightnin']

I'm not interested in applying to or working for Delta....However different standards for people based on the color of their skin or their sex is wrong plain and simple. Political correctness and affirmative action quotas simply continue to make race an issue.

Lowering standards for minority and female pilots is an insult to those who made it without affirmative action.

Trip7'S cool with it though. So is Rev. Al and Barack.

 

[Gr82Aviate]

I'm not interested in applying to or working for Delta....However different standards for people based on the color of their skin or their sex is wrong plain and simple. Political correctness and affirmative action quotas simply continue to make race an issue.

Lowering standards for minority and female pilots is an insult to those who made it without affirmative action.

Sadly, it's been going on for decades now...

 

[Poppa Hodax]

...Our MEC is not interested in the well-being of the pilot group. They are self-absorbed, and unless you are a reckless senior pilot, they won't do much for you.
[snip]

THIS. You want to know why something is happening, follow the money. You think ALPA cares about the ASa guys? Follow the money. They care about who pays the Association. Between an RJ and a 777 guy, who do you think ALPA represents?

....first come first served open time.

According to the road show I went to, the first come first serve policy is because there is going to be very little in there, and not worth bothering with. Get ready for your paycheck to be TLV + 15 at best.

steven.prescott@alpa.org,
richard.viars@alpa.org,
andy.hale@alpa.org,
ken.armstrong@alpa.org

Because a sternly worded email is going to change anything? These guys are bought and paid for.

 

[Scope out RJ's]

I'm not interested in applying to or working for Delta....

Most people who don't have the qualifications, or who have something in their shabby background usually respond like you do.

However different standards for people based on the color of their skin or their sex is wrong plain and simple.

Kind of like hiring different lawyers for different lawyers.....For frivilous lawsuits.

Political correctness and affirmative action quotas simply continue to make race an issue.

And help to weed out non qualified people like yourself. Oh yeah, you can't work there.......

Lowering standards for minority and female pilots is an insult to those who made it without affirmative action.

Trying to sue to get something you couldn't through the interview process is an insult to those who made it without suiing!

 

[damnflyboy]

Today, it's red arrow days. After PBS, it will just be something else. Just watch. They'll think of some loophole. The rape will just be administered in the left eye instead of in the right ear.

 

[CaribPilot]

Today, it's red arrow days. After PBS, it will just be something else. Just watch. They'll think of some loophole. The rape will just be administered in the left eye instead of in the right ear.

Your avatar is the coolest thing since sliced bread and the other side of the pillow.

I am going to take that image and print it onto stickers....and then put it on my flight kit.

 

[COOPERVANE]

Your avatar is the coolest thing since sliced bread and the other side of the pillow.

I am going to take that image and print it onto stickers....and then put it on my flight kit.

Sign me up for 1!!

 

[701EV]

Your avatar is the coolest thing since sliced bread and the other side of the pillow.

I am going to take that image and print it onto stickers....and then put it on my flight kit.

Carib,

Do you know that one of our pilots owns a printing Business?

He can make those into stickers.

http://www.aeroheadz.com/