Positive changes at Ameristar

[atpcliff]

Hi!

Since U were talking to pilotYIP, I thought u were referring to USA Jet.

C U!

cliff
YIP

 

[TxPilot0878]

MM quit...pm me as I have a new phone and not his #...and U sleezy ho bags....my balls itch!

 

[tathepilot]

actually the place has turned into a major craphole lately!! in the last month they have lost the 135cp,121cp,4-135 pilots"including yours truely", and 6-121 pilots. I know of 4 others that havent given notice yet that are leaving there soon. I did that post as a favor but now that he's gone and im gone screw that place. It's kinda funny how everyone's exit interview was about Jacob and what a c0cksucker he is!!! They have more dispatchers there then they do pilots now. Im just waiting to drive by and see someone walking around with the sign "The end is near"

I think it's pretty lame of you to start a post about how great your company is (or was) and than two months later, you're bashing the *hit out of it.. You said "you posted the initial thread as a favor", I'm sure the only favor that you did AS, was quit..

 

[Windsor]

I think it's pretty lame of you to start a post about how great your company is (or was) and than two months later, you're bashing the *hit out of it.. You said "you posted the initial thread as a favor", I'm sure the only favor that you did AS, was quit..

You know knothing about the situation. His retraction of his original statement and this thread just goes to show how $hitttie AJI really is. Initially it was a positive change. The company threw the pilots a bone, but it is too little, too late and not enough to keep people from leaving.

Anyone want to make bets that the "positive" changes go away once the next class has signed their contract? 12 and 2's will be the next sked.

 

[Wiggums]

...next class has signed their contract...

What class? Back in the day it would make sense to go to Ameristar, USA Jet, etc, but these days you should go to a regional.

 

[stupidpilot]

What class? Back in the day it would make sense to go to Ameristar, USA Jet, etc, but these days you should go to a regional.

It depends. USA Jet is still a pretty fair operator. The maintenance is well above par for the average freight outfit and the pay is pretty good as well. The pay is one hell of alot better than the regionals. Plus you don't operate into & out of only a few set airports like you do in a regional. I think that is a big plus because it gives you a lot more experience in having to deal with the unknown.

 

[pilotyip]

Thanks Stupid fortunately there enough pilots who feel that way also. Funny thing about the on-demand world, for those who have done it, it defines their career. When at the bar telling "war stories", they always talk about there on demand days. Like customer service telling you the box will fit on the DA-20, it won’t it is a single 4,000# pallet of 48x48x72 tall, their answers "Can you lay it on its side?". If you have been there we know you have done that. When is the last time you heard a great pilot story from a regional pilot about the time the FMS would not accept the letter "F" and he had to manually insert the geo co-ords of FWA.

 

[tathepilot]

You know knothing about the situation. His retraction of his original statement and this thread just goes to show how $hitttie AJI really is. Initially it was a positive change. The company threw the pilots a bone, but it is too little, too late and not enough to keep people from leaving.

Anyone want to make bets that the "positive" changes go away once the next class has signed their contract? 12 and 2's will be the next sked.

You are correct, I know nothing about the situation at AJI, but from what you are saying AJI doesn't sound like a great place if they make promises and than change after the pilots sign their contract.. Care to elaborate on that further?

 

[Wiggums]

It depends. USA Jet is still a pretty fair operator.

I think the future is going to be tough for all 135 operators, except for those with excellent pay and benefits. USA Jet is doing the right thing by lowering mins and paying better.

A few years ago your typical 135 pilot at AJI or JUS instructed for a few years, and then flew single pilot freight in a twin. I was a lower time with around 2000TT and 500 multi. I went the charter route for the pay and quick upgrade.

However, today you can get on at a regional with 500TT. A bunch of well paying, quality regionals have upgrade times less then two years. It's not all hub turns either, look at how extensive Skywest's route map is for example. Yes, you have to suffer through first year pay, but second year pay isn't so bad, and captains at the regionals generally have a better QQL and fly better equipment then those at AJI or JUS.

I'd hate to be doing recruiting for a place that does 135 single pilot in props. You need 1200TT pilots to comply with FARs, but who continues to build time instructing to 1200TT when their buddies are getting hires at regionals with much less time?

 

[pilotyip]

Competitive mins

Wiggums, we never lower minimums, we just redefine competitive hiring statistics. To establish the quality standard needed in this business we use the well-known medical test know as the "Billricktomfred". That is where you hold a reflective device under a candidate’s nose and if it fogs up, he is viable candidate. Actually we are finding flight time is not the complete indicator of success, there are many other variables to look at to determine if a candidate will be successful.

 

[Justthefacts]

"You better not be...."
"I'm gonna have to call the chief pilots!"
"Yes Sirrrrrrrrrr!"

They all quit...

 

[Rouge Warrior]

I think it's pretty lame of you to start a post about how great your company is (or was) and than two months later, you're bashing the *hit out of it.. You said "you posted the initial thread as a favor", I'm sure the only favor that you did AS, was quit..

We did all pilots a favor by quiting, maybe they will finally shut down that abortion of a airline.

You know in Mexico if you pay enough money they attain any finding you want. What can a 121 D.O. do to help the investigation of a plane he's not typed in, for a "company" he doesn't work for?

 

[Way2Broke]

• What is it like over there these days?
• Will they make me sign a training contract if I bring a Falcon type with me?
• Any chance of street Captain (without stepping on someone else's toes).
• Is hiring preference given to people living in YIP already?
• How many Falcons do they have? What equipment are in them.
• How is Business?
• Anyone working there that can shoot me a PM I would appreciate it. I'll take all the help I can get!

• MOST IMPORTANTLY, HOW DO WE APPLY?

Thanks everyone.

 

[NJA bound]

http://www.ameristarjet.com/employment.htm

 

[Way2Broke]

http://www.ameristarjet.com/employment.htm

Climb to 350 indicate that that they are hiring. They are only looking for 4 people, so they really don't have to try real hard in the current market.

 

[NJA bound]

way2broke,
climbto350 has a great one click to apply that immediately sends your 350 resume to the employer, have you done that?

NJA used climbto350 back in '05 when I hired on, how I got the job

 

[Way2Broke]

way2broke,
climbto350 has a great one click to apply that immediately sends your 350 resume to the employer, have you done that?

NJA used climbto350 back in '05 when I hired on, how I got the job

Thanks NJA. I have not gotten my own 350 account yet, because don't think I am going to need it. I am however using a friends just to keep myself in the loop on what is out there. So far that is the only job I have seen on there that I have jumped on. There really isn't that much on there that is domestic and worth your time right now. As always, I appreciate everyone's help.

 

[Windsor]

Do not go to amerisuck. Coming from USAJet, you will be sorely dissapointed. It would be like going from sitting in first class to a coach seat in between two 350lb fat a$$'es on a 12 hour flight. Only that 12 hour flight lasts for your entire stay at ameristar.

 

[Way2Broke]

Thank's Windsor, but I'm not coming from USA Jet, I am coming from the unemployment line. I don't have any illusions of granger flying Cargo anywhere, unless there is a Purple or Brown tail behind me, and their not exactly banging down my door. But I know they are on there way, maybe they just got lost or something, or they went to the wrong apartment? :nuts: 362 dollars a week from the great state of Michigan isn't exactly going to pay the bills if you know what I mean. All joking aside, if you really feel strongly about this shoot me a PM.

 

[1013dot25hPa]

I'm soon to be furloughed as well and wondering what life is like at Ameristar... I'm somewhat familiar with the operation in passing as I was YIP based when flying for CASW a couple of years ago. I know it was never a first class operation..., but the crews were. Trying to get a feel if I could hang my hat there for a short while.

Just need a job as soon as the furlough is a reality, have bills to pay and a wife to take care off.

Do they still require you to sign a contract? What's the average pay like? Upgrade time for a higher time guy? Day's off? Commuting? Bases? Medical Insurance? How do you get to fly the Pt. 121 side of the house? Most importantly what is the training like and how is the equipment maintained nowaday's?

 

[100-1/2]

"I'm not coming from USA Jet, I am coming from the unemployment line."

Dude, I just cried for you and your Mrs. when I read this. It is amazing, the difference in perspective whether you are in the fishbowl looking out or outside looking in. Light is the reality and the reality is seriously "bent" in opposite directions.

Goodluck w2b.

100-1/2

 

[landlover]

Do they still require you to sign a contract? YesWhat's the average pay like? pay varies wildly depending how much you fly. they only money you are guaranteed is the base pay see the original post, it's still the same. Upgrade time for a higher time guy? At least one year Day's off? Work 20 days a month Commuting? Not really an option Bases? ELP YIP ADS Medical Insurance? Yes How do you get to fly the Pt. 121 side of the house? You'd be able to get hired of the street with your time but I'm not sure they are hiring. Most importantly what is the training like and how is the equipment maintained nowaday's? Training is done in house with the sim at simulflite in dallas. Airplanes aren't fancy but they are maintained

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[Windsor]

you guys getting busier now that JUS folded their DA20 program?

 

[stupidpilot]

The aircraft at AJI are not maintained well at all.

 

[aerobat]

Pay no attention to StupidPilot... Most men, after being dumped by an old girlfriend, move on and let the time heal the wound... Viv - At your 20 yr HS Reunion, I'd love to see how you treat the girl who wouldnt dance with you at Prom. Fact is that the Ameristar fleet of aircraft is not unlike others in this market - they are older freighter aircraft. I've found their mx to be fine... If you desire glass, try NJ.

 

[Gearmonkey]

Fact is that the Ameristar fleet of aircraft is not unlike others in this market - they are older freighter aircraft. I've found their mx to be fine... If you desire glass, try NJ.

I don't know, I know some of their mechanics who work there currently and have worked there in the past, they say otherwise.

 

[stupidpilot]

No, I say this from experience. If you haven't ever flown a decent aircraft then you have nothing to compare it to. USA Jet seems to be able to keep their fleet in top condition and still be in business. Sounds to me like it's possible to maintain your equipment and still make a profit.

Your problem is that you defend the indefensible. Stop drinking the kool-aid! People have lost their lives due to lousy maintenance there.

 

[cherry20's]

No, I say this from experience. If you haven't ever flown a decent aircraft then you have nothing to compare it to. USA Jet seems to be able to keep their fleet in top condition and still be in business. Sounds to me like it's possible to maintain your equipment and still make a profit.

Your problem is that you defend the indefensible. Stop drinking the kool-aid! People have lost their lives due to lousy maintenance there.

Dude, USA JET just laid off all their Falcon pilots...

 

[Way2Broke]

USA Jet seems to be able to keep their fleet in top condition and still be in business. Sounds to me like it's possible to maintain your equipment and still make a profit.

Welcome to to two weeks ago. USA Jet doesn't fly Falcons anymore. They just put 60 people on the street, including myself.

How busy have you guys been over at Cherry, Ameristar, Kalitta Charters, IFL, Alliance, and all the other Falcon operators been since we put everyone in the unemployment line?

 

[dhawk41]

It has still been pretty slow at cherry i thought we would pick up alot after the usa news but i guess this is the slow time