- Jan 31, 2004
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can any post a link to some 3rd party material regarding the arbitration that the pncl pilots won last week? I can't find anything on it, not even on the ALPA site.
The ruling stated that Pinnacle was in violation of Section 1.F of the agreement. This is the section that requires management to negotiate with ALPA for a seniority integration after a merger. In plain English, the company is required to merge the seniority lists. They'll be given time to negotiate as to how the lists are merged, but the end result will be a single list. It was a major victory for ALPA.The won it? Thats awesome!
Anyone know what the remedy is going to be?
And the aribtrator retains controls so the company cannot procrastinate forever [only a couple of years]For a remedy the Arbitrator ordered Corp/Inc to meet with ALPA and enter negotiations for the appropriate fences.
Arbitrators decisions are public record. They can be found archived in most law libraries that have a focus on labor law. Besides....who cares if management find it inflammatory?PCL 128's post is not quite correct. I have not heard of Arbitators rulings being published anywhere. The MEC may publish a brief summary of the ruling, to its own pilot group. It would be very inflammatory to management to publish such rulings.
No quiet true. The arbitrators ruling is that Pinnacle Holdings comply with section 1.F.2 of the Pinnacle Pilots CBA.For a remedy the Arbitrator ordered Corp/Inc to meet with ALPA and enter negotiations for the appropriate fences.
Yes, PCL's characterization is EXACTLY correct and you should refrain from wild speculation. The decision , which I am looking at indicates a violation of 1.F and directs the company to comply with same.PCL 128's post is not quite correct.
Box office, your boob line is great. I think I might be getting a crush on you. I never thought about looking at boobs during chop, but now I realize I can THANK God for turbulence rather than curse him for it.And a midol. Seems to be in great need around here, lol!
It means you no vote guys need to man up and get on board helping the Pinnacle pilots get a good contract. Because guess what, when the fences fall in 1-2 years, it will be your contract.
Information would be great to flow freely between our groups but the problem is that with you guys being unorganized there is no point of contact within your group nor do we have an effective vehicle to transmit that information.what he said. Information from PCL ALPA would be greatly appreciated on our end.
Yep. Everybody act like adults and this WILL work.One problem with Colgan pilots is that many of us are just trying to get out our time and get out as fast as possible.
That kills long-term perspective and any desire to invest time or risk your neck to make it a better place.
Still, even with that, the ALPA vote just barely failed.
I wish we had some contacts to the Pinnacle guys just so we could begin regarding each other as members of the same team.
Are we on the same team?
Wow.Information would be great to flow freely between our groups but the problem is that with you guys being unorganized there is no point of contact within your group nor do we have an effective vehicle to transmit that information.
This process will likely take some time. I hope that your next organizing drive is successful so that we can work together in making this happen.