Pinnacle TA fails

[Plainsman]

Thank you to the guys and girls who voted it down. This is a great example to other groups out there who don't have a spine!

 

[timmay]

WG getting recalled and a no vote, maybe there is hope for the PCL pilots after all. Good job guys.

 

[dondk]

Hallelujah!!


The scary part is 42% voted yes and 9% just did not participate in voting


Time now to do some housecleaning before heading back to the table to get what the majority wants.

 

[20sx]

I love hearing the support....will we still get it when we get increased flying because we're still the cheapest?

 

[Tarzan]

You guys are still fairly junior. SkyWest pays pretty well and keeps its costs in line. Your management should do the same.

 

[WayBack]

I love hearing the support....will we still get it when we get increased flying because we're still the cheapest?

Imagine if they voted it through? Pure hell for that pilot group.

 

[Speedtape]

Am I wrong? Or is this the first time a TA has ever been voted down by an ALPA carrier? I can't think of one.

You are wrong. There have been many.

As far as Regionals, ASA voted down a TA in March, of 1998, at about 91% NO. It took 6 months, but they got the best Regional contract in the industry. That vote was about 80% something, Yes!

Good Luck to the Pinnacle Pilot group--you will get something better!

Don't let them have you pick 5 items that you want to see improved in the failed T/A--a play out of the book! Get it right and get what you want!

 

[Cpt Oveur]

best of luck in your future negotiations. I hope your ALPA brothers are there to support you!

 

[Papps]

Job well done guys!

 

[rjacobs]

Glad it got voted down. I never read the entire thing, but the biggest issue I had with it was a lack of actual pay rates and simply using an industry average pay computation.

 

[appendix]

Bouhhhh

 

[samballs]

Good job DTW, anyone based in MEM should walk with there heads down

 

[WildBlue]

Good job DTW, anyone based in MEM should walk with there heads down

Why should everyone in MEM walk with THEIR heads down? Even for flightinfo that is a moronic statement.

 

[Raskal]

Wow! Great job guys! Great to know there's a pilot group out there with balls. Keep it up!

 

[samballs]

Why should everyone in MEM walk with THEIR heads down? Even for flightinfo that is a moronic statement.

For your pleasure ******************************, Most of the MEM base should walk with their heads down

 

[shortbus driver]

I am based in MEM...and I have absolutely no shame in how I voted! After talking with a lot of different people...it was more voting no down there than I even guessed

 

[Rez O. Lewshun]

PCL guys... the way to get the best TA is not leave the heavy lifting to the MEC and NC. Enlist yourself and work for the TA your deserve. ALPA is only the broker after management realizes the grassroots movement is ironclad....

 

[PeanuckleCRJ]

Great job guys! Now it's time to get the contract you truly deserve.

 

[jc3]

Gotta say I didn't think we'd do it. Thanks to all my 9E folks for doing what needed to be done. For what it's worth I have a whole new appreciation for what ASA did. We took a step in the right direction, but have a long way to go to help this Industry. Let's not sell our selves short. We're a young pilot group and the sky's the limit. Let's finish this thing!!!

 

[mesaba13]

Good job, but lets see how Delta responds to this news. In the age of musical regionals I wonder how long it will be until they announce a reduction of 9E's flying. By the time our TA went out to vote NWA had already leaned on us by having our own crews park the AVROS in the desert. The very night the TA results passed NWA announced the AVROS were coming back out of the desert. The regionals in the Delta family really have no leverage anymore and all are expendable!